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HonestIago Started conversation Jul 18, 2009
Under certain conditions a person can perform a feat that is only usually achievable by supersonic planes.
What is the feat and what are the conditions?
Couple of s and plenty of scope for QIs and DGIs.
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KB Posted Jul 18, 2009
I had an explanation for this one half-worked-out in my head, and only then did I realise you said "supersonic planes", not "tectonic plates".
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Taff Agent of kaos Posted Jul 18, 2009
micro gravity / whieghtlessness
in side a lift in freefall the occupants are effectively whieghtless and can float around....untill the sudden stop at the bottom
QI - The shadow of the day
Taff Agent of kaos Posted Jul 18, 2009
from the title
is it the sun rising again
when a plane takes off after sundow and travells west it can catch up with and pass the terminator, line of shadow between day and night, effectively travelling back in time, as you reset your watch to the time zones you pass throught
how can people do it????
a tall building and a fast lift???? crossing from one time zone to another westward......
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HonestIago Posted Jul 18, 2009
It is the sun rising in the west, for exactly the reason you've described Taff - crossing the terminator. +3 points
Now how can a person do it?
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HonestIago Posted Jul 19, 2009
McKay, that'd cause the sun to rise again, but not in the west.
I'm specifically after how someone could make it appear the sun was rising in the west.
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Jul 19, 2009
Supersonic planes can break the sound barrier (hence the name) - I know how using a household object a person can do the same.
If you have one - use a whip - alternatively you can use a tie, if it has begun to fray down to small strands.
Take the tie flick it forward with your wrist (if t helps pretend you are Indiana Jones)
Get it right and you'll here a 'CRACK' sound, just like a real whip.
It used to be thought that sound was the leather looping back and hitting the leather, turns out it's the tip of the frayed end (or the whip tip - hee hee whip tip! ) being accelerated to over the speed of sound - and the 'CRACK' is a miniature sonic boom.
And this is how you can break the sound barrier in your living room or the office or on the bus...
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Jul 19, 2009
>>It is the sun rising in the west, for exactly the reason you've described Taff - crossing the terminator. +3 points<<
So presumably having crossed it once you've got to catch it up and cross it again?
Possibly an effect in the poles, the curvature making it easier to catch up with it travelling a relatively short distance.
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Jul 19, 2009
OH!
Is it a sunrise during a solar eclipse?
The sun appears to rise, is obscured, and then appears from out behind the moon is a 2nd 'dawn'
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HonestIago Posted Jul 19, 2009
Sorry Clive, a whip is a as anyone can do it at any time, no special circumstances needed.
However the poles is the right answer. The terminator circles the poles at less than 3mph - less than a brisk walking pace. +3
Last bit of the question - when can this happen?
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Jul 19, 2009
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Jul 19, 2009
Anything to do with something like the vernal equinox - I'm just thinking aloud - that during the winter the sun is perpetually below the horizon so no walking, no matter how brisk will catch the terminator, similarly, when in the summer the sun net sets no can it rise (it sot of wobbles) so it'd presumably have to be somewhere in the middle - perhaps the transition from summer to winter?
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HonestIago Posted Jul 19, 2009
Equinox? I'm afraid...
Just kidding
At the poles it would be just before the equinoxes, just as the sun set for the last time in six months. Exact date varies because of the Earth's wobbles. At lower latitudes the date can be up to a fortnight before the equinoxes but you'd have to run to outpace the terminator.
+3 for Clive
If some at the pole allowed the terminator to pass over them, watched the sun set in the west and then started walking westwards around the pole, first they'd see sun rise again from the western horizon. If they carried on walking the sun would rise higher in the western sky before doing a sort of loop, setting again as you caught up with the back end of the terminator.
If you were sufficiently bored, you could do the whole thing a few times before the sun was too far below the horizon to come back.
Points when I get back from a wedding...
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Malabarista - now with added pony Posted Jul 19, 2009
Is there an actual wedding planned somewhere, or do we have to wait for someone to propose before you'll do points?
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- 3: KB (Jul 18, 2009)
- 4: Taff Agent of kaos (Jul 18, 2009)
- 5: Taff Agent of kaos (Jul 18, 2009)
- 6: HonestIago (Jul 18, 2009)
- 7: McKay The Disorganised (Jul 18, 2009)
- 8: Taff Agent of kaos (Jul 18, 2009)
- 9: Rod (Jul 19, 2009)
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- 11: Malabarista - now with added pony (Jul 19, 2009)
- 12: Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. (Jul 19, 2009)
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