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I pledge alligence to the FFFF
Alon (aka Mr.Cynic) Posted Mar 22, 2000
yes, Popeye did say some very wise things. If only he was the idle of Christianity instead of that zenful guy.
I pledge allegiance to the FFFF
Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit Posted Mar 22, 2000
Austin: actually, it was pretty easy when I finally decided to put my mind to it...I just stole the source tag from this very frame. You are now officially y-Bob, for whatever that's worth.
Lear and Njan are now official as well, but GreyRose has still not passed the final admissions exam, that of naming her chair. It's the tough part, I know...
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Austin Allegro Posted Mar 22, 2000
Excellent! Cheers very much.
Maybe we could make Popeye the official celebrity supporter of FFFF. Just a thought..."Ag-ag-ag-ag"!
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Engels42 (Thingite Minister of Leaky Ethics and Spiffyness) Posted Mar 22, 2000
I too would like to (Finally) pledge my allegiance to the FFFF. I think that this a great place, and if I get a chair, oh please.., that I would like to be the resident Astrophysisist or just some Mark Twain reader dragged in off the street. Thanx.
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Mike A (snowblind) Posted Mar 22, 2000
I saw some t-shirts in a mail order catalogue. You had a blach shirt, with the christian fish in red on the front. And inside the fish you could have things like 'Satan' or '666'.
There was also a Bad Religeon t-shirt, which was white with a black cross, which had a red circle and dash thing over it. Basically like a roadsign.
My favourite was the Marilyn Manson one, with "Kill God", "Kill you mom and dad" and Kill yourself" in big letters on it.
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Lear (the Unready) Posted Mar 22, 2000
Thanks, I'm touched by the quick response. What a wonderful thing it is to belong ....
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Robotron, formerly known as Robyn Graves and before that, GreyRose Posted Mar 22, 2000
I was having a hard time thinking up a name for my chair, and was just about to post a message which just said 'AAAAAAAAARRRGGGHH!!' when it hit me. I'm planning on compiling song lyrics that would further the cause. So, I think the most logical chair I should hold would be that of Musical Director.
How's that sound?
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jbliqemp... Posted Mar 23, 2000
Congrads all new members on the naming of their chairs.
I'm in the process of getting people to tell me how to get our logo up and running (still), and am getting good info. Anyone here who knows how to get pics to load cleanly on h2g2 pages, or even those who want to help, feel free.
pics can be found at (still):
http://www.geocities.com/jbliqemp
and the one in question is:
http://www.geocities.com/jbliqemp/ScopesDarwin.html
Though in the future, some of the others may be...
-jb
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Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit Posted Mar 23, 2000
The technical part of this exercise, I can handle. It's the artistic part that confounds me.
First thing I think we need to do, though, is cut it down to size a bit. Remember, we need room on the page for the rolls, and the link library. After that, we simply make sure it's in a compact format (you might experiment with converting it to a GIF file, since that will probably use up the least space, but at a possible tradeoff in sharpness). Once we're satisfied with the final product, we simply find someplace to host it (geocities takes bloody ages, so we'll want someplace a bit faster. I hear the Post has some sort of image hosting thingy available), then send me the location so I can post the link.
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Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit Posted Mar 24, 2000
Sorry I forgot to mention this earlier...
Welcome to the club, Engels! Glad to see you finally decided to stop lurking in the shadows and declare yourself. I'll get around to adding you and GreyRose shortly.
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Twophlag Gargleblap - NWO NOW Posted Mar 24, 2000
Hello folks, sorry I've been so quiet, busy trying to get some direction in my life and all that. Goddamn (is it alright to use the term goddamn in this forum?) I turn my back for a couple of weeks and you guys have enough posts to fill up a book. Took me an hour just to catch up on everything.
I found an amusing site that might interest some of you; www.deoxy.org
You can find a link from my page to the thought crime section of it. Some of the articles posted there are crap, but overall it reminds me very much of our little gathering here, and I particularly enjoyed a linked site dedicated to biblical contradictions (500 or so at least).
Anyone noticed how much media attention the Pope is getting recently? Aaaaargh. P****s me off to no end. This senile doddering old fruitcake walks around waving his pointy hat at jewish people and you'd think Christ had returned to earth from the size of the newspaper letterhead covering this. The guy apologizes for 2000 years of his organization, Dark Age Inc, gutting nonbelievers with implements of torture, and somehow this is supposed to come across sincerely? Not even a year ago the same fool was issuing edicts forbidding Bosnian Catholic rape victims to take a morning-after pill. Blech. Somehow media coverage of the pontiff tends to miss highlighting the really ignorant things he does. No surprise there I guess; look how worked up everyone got over Mother Theresa dying; a woman who spent her life in the third world telling starving people with AIDS not to use condoms. This world is f****d up.
Anyways drop by my page for a chat sometime ya'll. I'm going to try and be around a bit more.
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Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit Posted Mar 24, 2000
I think the Pontiff has only helped our cause. By apologizing to all that crap, he basically said "Hey, all you non-xtians, you were right. We've been a pack of assholes, haven't we?" Luckily, the Judeo-Christian tenet of "forgive and forget" is not central to my beliefs.
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Mike A (snowblind) Posted Mar 24, 2000
Interestingly enough, my homepage's counter is nearing 666 hits
I have a CD, The Numbver Of The Beast. It is covered with pictures of Satan. It has had to have a new case, which even now is wrecked. The booklet is shredded, and last time I played it I needed to polish it three times...
I like to think it's jinxed
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Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit Posted Mar 25, 2000
Hey, check this out...the Uganda thing gets worse: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000324/wl/religion_uganda_18.html
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Lear (the Unready) Posted Mar 25, 2000
I'm no torch-bearer for the Pope myself - or, needless to say, for the Christian faith in general - but isn't it a bit futile to spend time insulting an old man who's time is near anyway, to put it quite frankly.
Besides, if we're going to focus on individual personalities, then for the sake of balance we should also bear in mind the present Pope's history of supporting the lesser evil in international affairs : his support for the Palestinian cause (eg, have a look at the following article, from yesterday's Guardian, for an intelligent assessment of the Pope's intervention in Israeli-Palestinian affairs @ http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,3977771,00.html); his criticisms of unregulated laissez-faire capitalism as inherently divisive and destabilising; his criticisms of the abject, now defunct, communist experiments in Eastern Europe and elsewhere; to name but a few prominent examples.
I despise the Vatican's pig-headed stance on abortion. I think the Christian religion is living in the dark ages. Don't get me wrong. I just don't think that using expressions like "doddering senile old fruitcake" is likely to convince anybody that this particular Foundation has a meaningful role to play in the formation of a post-Christian sensibility. Which would be a shame, because it maybe could have. I would say it's usually a mistake to get too personal about things. The problem is less with this one specific Pope, and rather, with the institution behind him, with the narrow-minded dogma that Christian churches have been peddling for century-upon-century, and with the source of all this damaging nonsese - the Bible itself.
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Lear (the Unready) Posted Mar 25, 2000
Sorry, the above link should read http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,3977771,00.html if anyone's interested. I got a bracket and a semi-colon mixed up with it by mistake.
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Austin Allegro Posted Mar 25, 2000
Err, well I didn't write the original, but calling the pope a "doddering senile old fruitcake" isn't really _that_ offensive, is it? That's the sort of thing i'd call my dad - it doesn't mean i don't still love the guy. When I read it, i just simply saw it as a joke - nothing that even the pope himself (it really would be nice if he was reading this forum!!) would take huge offense at. I mean, come on, there are a hell of a lot of satirical programmes (Have I got news for you, Spitting Image etc.) that have called the pope a lot worse than that.
And why not rip into the pope? He is after all head of the RC church. If he could change the world for the better, then he has the power to do it. But is he going to do that? Like f**k he is. And, as you rightly said, if he is on his last legs, then why doesn't he abdicate and let some newer blood have a go - they can't be any worse at it than him.
As much as it may be nice for our little group to rise up, overthrow religion all over the world, instigate world peace and fly off into space on large intergalactic rabbits (sorry - i was starting to bore myself a bit), it probably isn't gonna happen. Firstly, because there aren't enough of us, and secondly because most of us can't be bothered - we'd prefer to have a laugh, take the piss out of religion and hope that more people start to see what a complete farce it is.
Personally, I don't want to be part of an organisation where the people don't want to have any fun. I have that choice - it's called christianity
A "They don't call me y-bob for nothing" A
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Mike A (snowblind) Posted Mar 25, 2000
You go, AA!
Personally, if this was all serious debate about stuff, I'd have left long ago. How can you have a 'serious deabate' about religeon anyway, especially with us lot! It inevitable end up like "religeon = s**t".
Anyway, the Pope is a doddering senile old fruitcake. Simple as that. He is also a w****r.
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Engels42 (Thingite Minister of Leaky Ethics and Spiffyness) Posted Mar 28, 2000
Hey, this didn't get serious, so why has every one left? If it has gotten serious maybe we should hire some sort of freak for personal entertainment.
Maybe the Pope himself?
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- 41: Alon (aka Mr.Cynic) (Mar 22, 2000)
- 42: Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit (Mar 22, 2000)
- 43: Austin Allegro (Mar 22, 2000)
- 44: Engels42 (Thingite Minister of Leaky Ethics and Spiffyness) (Mar 22, 2000)
- 45: Mike A (snowblind) (Mar 22, 2000)
- 46: Lear (the Unready) (Mar 22, 2000)
- 47: Robotron, formerly known as Robyn Graves and before that, GreyRose (Mar 22, 2000)
- 48: jbliqemp... (Mar 23, 2000)
- 49: Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit (Mar 23, 2000)
- 50: Alon (aka Mr.Cynic) (Mar 23, 2000)
- 51: Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit (Mar 24, 2000)
- 52: Twophlag Gargleblap - NWO NOW (Mar 24, 2000)
- 53: Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit (Mar 24, 2000)
- 54: Mike A (snowblind) (Mar 24, 2000)
- 55: Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit (Mar 25, 2000)
- 56: Lear (the Unready) (Mar 25, 2000)
- 57: Lear (the Unready) (Mar 25, 2000)
- 58: Austin Allegro (Mar 25, 2000)
- 59: Mike A (snowblind) (Mar 25, 2000)
- 60: Engels42 (Thingite Minister of Leaky Ethics and Spiffyness) (Mar 28, 2000)
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