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swl Started conversation Jun 16, 2012
I've noticed that a very high proportion of the meat on supermarket shelves is from pigs - bacon, pork chops, pork steaks, pork sausages, gammon, roast ham, boiled ham, pork pies etc etc etc. In fact, there's possibly more pork products than beef.
So why when I'm driving around don't I see vast herds of pigs grazing the countryside?
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winnoch2 - Impostair Syndromair Extraordinaire Posted Jun 16, 2012
Unfortunately, most are kept indoors in sheds, whereas sheep and cows are not as amenable to this form of housing and tend to be visible out in fields.
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paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Jun 16, 2012
Pig farms are not welcomed in most neighborhoods because of the stench that emanates from them. Therefore, they tend to be out in the boondocks, and even there they come in for their share of complaints from neighbors.
I grew up in a very rural town. Last I heard, there were four pig farms there. They were not popular with the neighbors, but the pig farms had been there a long time. The town's biggest swamp is called Hog swamp.
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paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Jun 16, 2012
Annie Proulx wrote a book about the pig farm industry. The title is, "That Ol' Ace in the Hole." The main character is a naive young guy, just out of college, who gets a job scouting out places in the Texas panhandle where people are getting ready to sell their old family ranches. The company would buy the ranches are convert them to pig farms on the sly, without letting the neighbors know what they are doing until it's too late to stop the company.
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Maria Posted Jun 16, 2012
I´m also from a rural area. There weren´t any pig farms, instead, every family had their own pigs. We bought them in March and by December they were killed.
Pigs were fed with cereals, peeling of watermelons, potatoes... figs, lots of figs... (There are four fig trees in my village house) corn, etc.
The veterinarian would come and take a sample of the meat just in case. No problem ever.
In pig farms, these animals receive lots of antibiotics and the food... well, I´m sure they don´t eat as well as my pigs used to.
Lots of reumatic and liver diseases are related to eating too much pork and other red meats.
THe tastiest and healthiest pork meat is the one coming from the Iberian pig. He lives and feeds in open fields called dehesas and acorns is part of their diet.
These autoctonous black pigs were celebrated by Romans, and you know you have to trust Romans on food pleasures.
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swl Posted Jun 16, 2012
Just found this - http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/15353/report-counts-how-many-pigs-are-in-the-uk
Apparently there were less than 5000 pigs in the UK in 2007 Compared to about 36 million sheeps.
We must import a helluva lot.
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Mu Beta Posted Jun 16, 2012
We do import far too much pork, and people need to buy more British. The pig farming business in this country has been subsistence only for the last twenty years, and things are getting worse as feed prices go up.
One point to remember is that you get a LOT more meat off a good porker than from - say - a lamb. And there's very little, if anything, that isn't good eating on a pig carcass, so you'd expect one pig to feed a family of four for a good few months.
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winnoch2 - Impostair Syndromair Extraordinaire Posted Jun 16, 2012
Indeed; just think how far these hog roasts at weddings, etc go. I couldn't believe how many plates were filled from the one pig last time I had the pleasure of being at an event where one was being consumed.
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Maria Posted Jun 16, 2012
I saw a doc on usanians chefs. They all met to have a meal. It surprised me a lot that there was lots of offal.
Offal is tasty and, on the other hand, it´s also excellent to help re- build tendons because of the jelly that kind of food has.
I don´t eat now offal except a meal called callos picantes and chicharrones. I also eat ham, but if it´s from a place I can trust. I don´t eat much meat anyway.
When we had our pigs, I would eat liver, fried brain... and my favourite was ear roasted on a bed of ashes in my chimney.
My mother used to cook a delicious stew with a few bones of the spinal cord and potatoes.
Most of the meat of our pigs were made morcilla and chorizo. Once dried, the long cords of them were cut, fried in olive oil and put in clay recipients with that same oil. That food would last until the summer.
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minichessemouse - Ahoy there me barnacle! Posted Jun 16, 2012
I have heard it said that the only part of a pig that cannot be eaten is the Squeal.
Mind I'll stick to ham and bacon for now I think.
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Whisky Posted Jun 16, 2012
SWL - check that link you posted again - the figures in that table were in 'thousands' of pigs...
Just under 5,000,000 pigs in the UK in 2007 not 5,000
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Mu Beta Posted Jun 16, 2012
But we still import about the same number again, so the argument's not totally invalid. Just a little bit dim.
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paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Jun 17, 2012
My grandmother used to eat bacon fat by the spoonful. Her doctor scolded her for this, urging her to drop it and drink more orange juice.
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atinythorn Posted Jun 17, 2012
...........she was 103 at the time, and he said it might damage her health!!
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paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Jun 17, 2012
Well, she was almost 70 and had about a decade of life remaining. As it was, the bacon fat constricted her arteries. Today she would have gone on statin drugs to keep her cholesterol levels down, but back then there was no treatment for that.
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- 4: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Jun 16, 2012)
- 5: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Jun 16, 2012)
- 6: Maria (Jun 16, 2012)
- 7: swl (Jun 16, 2012)
- 8: Mu Beta (Jun 16, 2012)
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