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kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Started conversation Jun 14, 2004
A couple in Auckland NZ had a piece of space rock come through the roof of their living room this week. Apparently it's 4 1/2 billion years old (although I'm not sure how that was decided).
I just wondered how old that is compared to other bits of the universe, like the Earth, other planets etc
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Zak T Duck Posted Jun 14, 2004
Earth is at least 4.5 billion years old when deduced by radiometric dating, although I'd assume that the sun and the rest of the universe is a heck of a lot older than that.
http://www.ulo.ucl.ac.uk/~diploma/year_one/usgs/radiometric_dating/ageofearth.html
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Jun 14, 2004
Of course, something like that would never happen to me.
I bet the couple aren't even interested in astronomy...
S*d's law
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kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Jun 14, 2004
GB, I'm not sure one would necessarily want this to happen though. The rock came through the roof, hit the couch, bounced up and hit the ceiling and then droppped to the floor and rolled under a table. Not what you'd expect when sitting down to watch the telly . I don't think the people where there at the time though.
The woman isn't into astronomy at all, but she does have the good sense to want the rock to stay in NZ with someone who wants it.
They are open to cash offers though if you are keen
Thanks for the link Croz
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Researcher 556780 Posted Jun 14, 2004
Ohhhh, how fascinating...
Wouldn't be too impressed if it came thro my house tho...and then I'd be wondering how many more pieces were following it..
Croz, interesting link
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kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Jun 14, 2004
They were at home at the time:
>>"There was just a huge explosion and we looked around and there was just dust everywhere," householder Brenda Archer told the station. I don't know what to make of it, it's unbelievable. I'm just glad no one was sitting on the couch because they just would have got absolutely crowned." <<
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3572212&thesection=news&thesubsection=general&thesecondsubsection=
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kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Jun 14, 2004
Earlier in the year quite alot of news time was devoted to a story about people's cars and houses that kept getting this evil smelling brown sludge dropped onto it from the sky. Because they were in the flight path for the Wellington airport people assumed it was coming from the planes
Turned out it was from nesting ducks that had just done a long shift on the nest . They even interviewed the duck sh*t expert from the Dept. of Conservation to prove it, which was pretty entertaining
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MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Posted Jun 14, 2004
I would have thought that, wrt the Big Bang theory, all planets, suns, comets, asteroids etc. would all be the same age? I know about supernova, and gas giants etc. But they are all composed from the same matter, surely?
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Noggin the Nog Posted Jun 14, 2004
It all depends what you mean by how old it is
The stuff it's made of should be the same age as the universe.
But it probably became a lump of rock (as opposed to gas and dust) during the formation of the solar system (ie about 4.5 billion years ago).
Noggin
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Baron Grim Posted Jun 14, 2004
And the Universe is between 13 and 14 billion years old.
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992215
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taliesin Posted Jun 14, 2004
How old is the Universe?
How far is up?
'Scientists say' is an unacceptable answer to a basically unanswerable question. We can say the Universe is as old as the current moment, or as old as we would like to believe, or that evidence seems to suggest it is so many billion years old, or that 'it' simply exists, has existed forever, and will continue to do so, in one form or another.
Simply stating that the Universe is a certain age bypasses the obvious question, 'what was there before the Universe?', as well as falsely objectifying that which cannot be objectified, since 'it' encompasses all existence.
It may well be that the present form of the Universe had a 'beginning', and will have an 'end'. but it is just as much an error to state that the Universe itself has either beginning or end, as it is to set bounds upon infinity.
"We are stardust..."
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BouncyBitInTheMiddle Posted Jun 14, 2004
Or indeed what does 13 to 14 billion years actually mean when the universe started off so dense? They must have been a huge time bending effect.
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Noggin the Nog Posted Jun 14, 2004
Ah, but although extremely dense the density would have been evenly distributed - for relativistic time dilation to occur distribution must be uneven. That just occurred to me
We may not know whether the universe had a beginning (or even if the question makes sense), but t6he *history* of the universe starts with the big bang - best to just settle for that.
Noggin
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Jun 14, 2004
oooh oooooh pictures......and a price tag
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3802865.stm
Nope, I can't afford it.
As I said, nothing like this would ever happen to me.
Talk about manna from Heaven
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kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Jun 14, 2004
$US5,000...they should be able to get the roof fixed for that
"But it probably became a lump of rock (as opposed to gas and dust) during the formation of the solar system (ie about 4.5 billion years ago)."
That was what impressed me - that it had been in it's _current_ form for so long.
So does that mean it definitely/probably came from within our solar system?
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kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Jun 14, 2004
So is there any way to know how long it's been flying round out there on it's own?
And how did it get from there to here? Doesn't the asteroid belt have an orbit?
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- 1: kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website (Jun 14, 2004)
- 2: Zak T Duck (Jun 14, 2004)
- 3: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Jun 14, 2004)
- 4: kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website (Jun 14, 2004)
- 5: Researcher 556780 (Jun 14, 2004)
- 6: kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website (Jun 14, 2004)
- 7: Researcher 556780 (Jun 14, 2004)
- 8: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Jun 14, 2004)
- 9: kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website (Jun 14, 2004)
- 10: MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. (Jun 14, 2004)
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