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Seriously?

I read the link
http://www.alislam.org/library/links/00000094.html#9
and
it reminds me of some things I read while researching the Druze and what little we know of their beliefs.

After wading about in ancient beliefs and the way they are manifested in the modern world...

If Jesuses tomb is in Kashmir, somebody's got a lot o' 'splainin' to do.

Of course, it is interesting, after all the cultural hijackings he's suffered, that is turns out to be one more.

Puuleeez! Not only is it obvious to say that just because it's on the net (or printed anywhere else for that matter) doesn't make it true. Then there's the fact that the poster(s) of the site have a whole different axe to grind. On top of that *Jesus* is an honorary title bestowed by the Israelites (or is it Jews) to the messiah they are still waiting for, I believe. So this could be just another person who claimed that title, couldn't it?

If Jesus survived the crucifixion (it's a doddle, after all) and certain conspiracy theorists are correct, he's most likey in France where convoluted and poorly supported theory has him and Mary Magdelene shacking up together and raising a family, the true royal bloodline that eventually gets called the Sang Real, or Grail.

Check out the wild assumptions in 'Holy Blood/Holy Grail' and the very amusing fictional romp 'The DaVinci Code'by Dan Brown.

Or lots of things written by Umberto Eco.

Unfortunately I have a nasty feeling the JtheP will show up here and spoil the party, but on the whole I think we've been fairly fair as it were.

If there are remains, the religious would pitch a fit so I'm inclined to believe that they destroyed anything if it actually existed. That's a pretty good double negative so I'd be willing to guess nothing exists. As to the actual tomb, we only just got *proof* that Jesus had a brother and that was suspect. Anything else would be just too much to believe I fear.

Yeah, I've read Henry Lincoln's "Holy Blood/Holy Grail".
Used to have a copy of it and it's sequel. Pretty tenous stuff, though entertaining in an Eric Von Daniken sort of way.


"On top of that *Jesus* is an honorary title bestowed by the Israelites (or is it Jews) to the messiah they are still waiting for, I believe. So this could be just another person who claimed that title, couldn't it?"

Actually, Yeshuah was a fairly common given name at the time.
I don't remember the honorific that the Jews gave their expected messiah at the moment, but given the similarities between the Semitic tongues, it wouldn't be surprising if it were another common word like "Shalom" and "Salaam".

Various sects like the Hasidim and the Lubavitchers have believed that their leader was the messiah.

There was a really popular fellow in Turkey once who amassed a great following claiming to be the messiah. Then he got religion. He became a Muslim and most of his followers for some reason seemed to be disappointed.

At least five of the messiahs that showed up in the first century had Yeshuah as part of their name.

Jesus ben-Ananias
Jesus Justus
Elymas bar-Jesus
Jesus bar-Abbas
Jesus ban-Sapphia

http://www.medmalexperts.com/POCM/

"Jesus" was his first name, not a title, although that is just the way the Romans spelt it. It would have been something like Yeshua. "Christ" is a title given by the Greek-speaking Early Christians. It means "the anointed one". The Hebrew title for their saviour is as far as I know "Messiah".

Romer (the greatest documentary archaeologist to this point) mentioned, in one of his docu's, that one of his archaelogical friends had found a grave with 'Jesus' on it in a Jerusulum graveyard, but didn't remark on it because it couldn't be Jesus grave as he ascended to heaven Until later...
BCNU - Crescent

Finding a grave in Jerusalem with Yeshua on it is a bit like finding a grave in Wales with Evans written on it

Noggin

Its not just the grave in Kashmir, if you go to the top of the page of links you will find a lot more evidence. Maybe its tenuous, but then so is the bible. I think its worth a read.

Didn't some radical Anglican bishop claim that belief in Christ's divinity was not essential to being a good Christian? So by his reckoning, even if Jesus was just a man who died and was buried, his message is still valid. I don't think it went down too well with the rest of the Anglican bishops, though.

One of my major concerns is that Jesus isn't mentioned by any Roman documentation. You'd think Pilate would have said something to Rome about yet another threat of uprising over a radical rabbi, especially one that was organising large open air meetings of the locals. Apparently not, though.

Obviously, not everything is going to survive over time, but if the letters discovered in the Vindolander forts (on Hadrian's Wall) made it, you'd think that maybe, just maybe, someone woulda kept some record.

Was it in Holy Blood Holy Grail that someone identified an odd little grave in Wales as belonging to Mary Magdelene?

In "The Tomb of God", some English authors have identified the exact location of Jesus's tomb, in the Pyrenees in Southern France. Unfortunately, it is under thousands of tons of scree, so lots of money would be needed to dig there.

Sounds like a job for 'Time Team'.

In some respects I think the message would be even more valid. If he was no more divine than the rest of us, aspirations of following his example of behaviour are more viable.

Posted 18 Hours Ago by Kaz
So nobody thinks hes in Kashmir then?

Judging by the hair Jesus was probably a rock or even heavy metal fan. As such he would have probably gone for cut up Tshirt and leather trousers.

He wouldnt have been seen dead in kasmir.

"He wouldnt have been seen dead in kasmir."

Happens to be a rather famous Led Zep track, so I imagine JC would have gone for it in a big way.

A very good track actually

JC was never one to hang out in hot spots, he was more of a trend setter. Needless to say, if he was in Kasmir it would have been *the* place to be.