h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

>> ..do you have access to edit it? <<

No. Whoever 'edits' it, in this case you (Darkwin) is the only one who can make changes directly to the version you created. You could list dozens, even hundreds of 'writer/researchers' (some entries really do credit hundreds of contributors) in the 'set researchers' box, but only the original 'editor' can 'edit'.

To that end, please note that I am running late and have not had time to make an AggGag/CAC copy of FRAG 2 this week. So I am linking to your version. This means your credit as 'editor' will appear on that page. It also means we are relying on you not to delete the entry.

thanks again guys,
peace
jwf

Argjh! Change the numbers for Roman numerals!

I'm sure Darkwin will do that as soon as he is able. As I have said above, we are linking to his version and I have no editorial control over it. Whatever title he used is what will automatically appear on our CAC page as well. When he makes the change on his edit, it will also automatically change on the CAC page link. Hopefully he will be able to make the edit by Thursday.

peace
jwf

Will make that little switch-a-roo. Sure, I won't delete it Unless i'm brutally forced by green vogons threatening to read their poetry lol
also, [HPB}, I have schools starting and it demands a lot of time, lowering my internet usage a lot. I may not be able to edit it as soon as it may seem normal. I also suggest getting familiar to GML, it's really not so difficult, and besides, you can check codes of any article by replacing the 'A' with 'Test' in the article URL. So, if my response is delayed, please understand that school is equally important

Oh please!

What does education do apart from make you more qualified to be able to get the desired job you want, increasing your wealth and going towards powering a country's whole economic structure?!

QUOTE: "Oh Please!"

Oh well, formal education definately needs a more interactive approach , but the point is, i can't spend all my internet time (which includes mainting a forum) on h2g2, specially minor tasks. i know i'm responsible for the editing, and I'll do it, but it may be delayed. and also, try getting into GML. really helpful. besides, pouring my thoughts of formal education is not the point here, and if you STILL are interested on that, my articles related to the subject are in http://ataraxia-online.cjb.net (if that site still exists).

cheers

Well it was supposed to be an ironic joke... never mind!

If you two gents will forgive my intercession here I'd like you both to be aware of how this conversation looks to an impartial 3rd party. I recognise some dismay and confusion caused by language, age and social barriers and a failure to recognise them for what they are, resulting in irritability.

From my 3rd party perspective and the wisdom that comes with advancing years I see a 14 year old Nepalese boy (possibly English is not his first language - his usage is refreshingly 'abandoned' and yet so 'dead on') who is under a great deal of academic stress and way over his head with h2g2 'committments' which he takes very seriously; and yet he realises these are only 'just as important' as scholastic responsibilities and like everything in the world to a 14 year old, quite rightly, mutable.

[HBP] on the other hand is indeterminately older, quite inscrutable and obviously having entirely too much fun.

The one thing we all seem to agree on is that "really nothing really matters really". And as head honcho and editor of <./>AggGag</.>/CAC I can say that with impunity. I can also offer to edit them myself and relieve Darkwin of the task. You see, I failed to realise how much else he was already involved in at h2g2 before mistakenly patronising him as a 'newbie' and offering him a chance to 'get involved'.

~jwf~

Nothing wrong with enjoying 'fun'.... That's what it's there for if I'm not very much mistaken... Tally ho and all that...!

What's the point in living if you're going to be sensible? That kind of thing is what you do on your death bed when it's more 'sensible' to pray to all gods hoping, of course, that the last one you convert to is the right one to get you to any utopia in the after-life, if there is one...!

I suppose it could have been worse if you kept calling Darkwin 'kiddo', kept metaphorically pulling at his cheeks and saying "Can you do this little jobby-wobby on big on 'heh 2 geh 2?"

Or am I just making things worse?

>> Or am I just making things worse? <<

Personally, I find your use of irony quite 'wicked' and enjoyable, and a sure sign that you are enjoying h2g2 in the spirit of alcohol-fired, existential-absurdism that inspired it (if not the 'modus operandi' of those who now manage it).

But irony (like most alcoholic beverages) is an acquired taste and who's to say what stressed-out and sober teenaged geniuses think of people who don't take life, the universe or anything all that seriously. Many might consider it unseemly for old farts to constantly behave like irresponsible teenagers when there are Teas to be crossed and 'ayes' to be doted upon.

You seem to have grasped the overview of the situation as I see it, but go on then [HPB], tell us your a/s/l (that's an American teen-chat-room shorthand for 'age/sex/location'). It might help put things in perspective. There's nothing like the shock of finally realising who you are actually talking to, to knock down the translucent (as thru a glass darkly) pink walls of cyberspace.

~jwf~

If my attitudes on h2g2 were promoted through the consumption of alcohol it means that I really can't take my drink as the last unit I consumed was on April 27th! 26 before that... and 1st January prior as I only drink when I'm thirsty!

My humour's ironic? I thought I was only doing 1 ironic joke... granted my writing puts this over but the age thing?

It seems that the only 'old' people that believe life is worth enjoying are those who don't have complete grasp of it ie. those who are senile....

Curious thing age... it seems those who don't fight it mentally are those who wait for a ball to role onto their land where it immediately disappears from existance.. with the old quote 'Damn kids!'...

Just to be clear, I wasn't suggesting you were a drunk or even a drinker, rather that h2g2 was inspired by an "alcohol-fired, existential-absurdism".

One can appreciate such absurdism without actually being existential, alcohol-fired or even inspired. The appreciation of non-sequiturs, slapstick comedy, social satire and irony does not require the audience to be inebriates. But it sure helped the writer of the original Guide to reach unihibited highs of imagination and absurdist juxtaposition.

A 'whale' and a 'bowl of petunias' for example are not the most likely objects to materialise in the vacuum of space, and yet the genius of Douglas Adams has made them icons. Because, one can be completely alcohol free and still see the improbability such a juxtaposition poses.

Irony can be very dry and a cutting sense of humour is often used as a 'put down' by younger persons experimenting with the range and power of their wit. But understanding and appreciating irony is an acquired taste as well as an acquired skill. It is best suited to those old enough to have a clearer perspective of Life the Universe et al.

One would not expect much conscious irony from teenagers. Their experience of it is mostly in its cruder and crueler forms. More mature and more subtle forms are simply lost on them. Aggressive locker-room and bar-room irony, such as most mature social jousting, creates an air of suspicion in younger persons. Mock bravado for example often prompts a testy response in persons who have not yet had the opportunity of experiencing the subtler joys of a witty remark dressed in the colours of mock-combat. They see only the combative stance and instinctively react defensively, not seeing that the barbs and jabs are meant to tease and test and not actually threaten or harm.

Oh and I have to disagree with your comment that "the only 'old' people that believe life is worth enjoying are those who don't have complete grasp of it". I assure you that we older folks cherish every moment left to us. It is not always pleasant or enjoyable but whenever life is free of pain or care, it is certainly worth living and worth every effort to enjoy it as fully as possible.

This is especially true of communication and understanding, where no effort should be spared to be clear, fair and accurate in consideration of others abilities to understand and appreciate. The rewards of such effort are hard to describe to the young, but are very satisfying to the elders.


~jwf~

Right...
ummmm yea, acadamically, i HAVE to do all this (IGCSE and SLC Courses) and it demands a lot of time. And no, ~swf~, im' sure, you're quite busy too, and i'll manage to post my stuff on saturdays and sundays . and thanks for the mention on youths at this week's CAC! YAY! hehe. Cheers, and [HPB], we're all waiting for the next Fragmented episode lol

jwf... I knew what you were saying with the Douglas Adams/drink thing... I thought it would be remotely entertaining if I gave my own experiences with drink...

..and I was hoping that you'd pick up on the 'grasp of it' as my saying that sanity is a dish best left untasted...!

Oh and did I mention that it was King's Gorge???

My apologies for missing the apostrophe and the 's' from King's.
Unfortunately, the CAC issue copy put out by is the property of and can only be editted by them. Changing my copy of the CAC page now would have no effect. But I will ask if they might have time to make a correction.

And of course Darkwin made the same error on his version of the episode and that is the one we link to. Perhaps he will fix it as well.

So you see now [HPB] how important it is (as Darkwin suggested) to learn how to use GUIDEML when creating entries if you don't want to suffer the mistakes and presumptions of others. Writing in plain text is acceptable of course (SEE: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/Writing-PlainText) and if you like we can just link to your versions over which you have complete editorial control.

But as both Darkwin and I pointed out using GUIDEML allows you be more visually creative with a page and make it easier on the eye. It is on the whole quite simply, better (SEE: Writing-GuideML ). It has links to all sorts of details and FAQs and examples of the various < TAGS > and < FUNCTIONS >.

As for your drinking habits I'm glad we've got that all straightened out. And perhaps your reference to old folks grasps touched the same defensive nerve in me that I thought my reference to drink had excited in you.


~jwf~

Well doing GuideML... Dark has given a distinct look to FRAGMENTED which I couldn't possibly do or compete with (as I don't know how)... And prefer it to have the same look throughout!

Well doing GuideML... Dark has given a distinct look to FRAGMENTED which I couldn't possibly do or compete with (as I don't know how)... And prefer it to have the same look throughout!