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Dr Who - Spoilers
The Doc Posted Jun 23, 2005
I have a mate here at work who is all depressed as well - he says that if you could find him a picture of Rose in a St Trinians outfit, that might cheer him up.......
Dr Who - Spoilers
Smij - Formerly Jimster Posted Jun 23, 2005
Well, can't do a St Trinians for you, but...
The Doctor Who Tragical History Tour is one of the best online resources for Who-related photos: http://drwhotht.phenominet.com/
If you go to the Doctor Who 2005 page, then scroll to the bottom to the 'Christopher Eccleston - Who not Who' link, you'll find loads of pics from Billie's pop career.
WARNING - Great though it is, this site relies on pop-up adverts that might drive you insane if you don't have a pop-up blocker.
Dr Who - Spoilers
fieldwalker Posted Jun 23, 2005
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2003/m_starwars.php?gobackto=funny-collectionsqqmovies-star-wars-p1
If he really wants cheering up, guide him to the above link - CAUTION - it's ever so slightly rude, mind.
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
This Researcher is Gone Posted Jun 24, 2005
The messages abouth Bad Wolf were sent to the places where they would be as a trigger which would help her to act.
Bad Wolf is something that results from Rose opening up the Tardis' console and interacting with it's "Heart". It was Rose who directed (asked?) the Tardis (through it's heart) to return to the Doctor. Otherwise it would simply have accepted the Doctor's direction to return Rose home, and shut itself down. The motivation for what happened was from Rose, but the power was from the Tardis. The way that "Bad Wolf" Rose acted makes this the clear. She has choices in front of her that the Doctor, as a Time Lord, could not, or would not make. It was Rose's love/anger that was the driving force, but it was the Heart of the Tardis, interacting with Rose that did it. Rose without the Heart could not have done it; the Tardis, without Rose would not have done it.
The Doctor had protected the Station from direct attack.
If I remember, correctly, the Emperor Dalek did not need live humans. What he needed was cells from humans that he could use to clone/create creatures that would become Daleks. He did NOT need living tissue which means that it would not matter if the human population was living or dead. What he needed was human cells. No explanation was given as to how the Daleks were destroying continents, or what they were doing to the population. It could, for example, be that they were transmatting selectes populations off the planet for "harvesting", or it could be that the nature of the destruction, while it killed, was NOT destructive to human tissue.
The problem that was faced by the Doctor was not what to do at the end of the attack; it was what to do to prevent the attack from materialising. Of course, there was the third choice (wait for the Daleks to destroy all humanity and then destroy all Daleks) but, at the time the Doctor was preparing the Delta Wave, the attack had not begun. My feeling was that, even if he had left the Daleks to act, his inaction would have been morally unacceptable to him.
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
Mol - on the new tablet Posted Jun 24, 2005
I'm so glad you're all still here & talking! What a bad week to choose for a holiday (although the weather was fantastic ) - there was an internet cafe on site, but I found out about it too late for it to be any use.
Anyway, well done Kerr and Jimster . And I was wrong, cos the non-Whos in my house didn't feel cheated by the sudden and unheralded arrival of an Emperor Dalek.
But it's *six months* until Christmas - *surely* the BBC aren't going to run a trailer a day for all that time, as my Mum tells me they've been doing all week?
Um ... I'm now off to plough through the huge blog on the other thread
Mol
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
Traveller in Time Reporting Bugs -o-o- Broken the chain of Pliny -o-o- Hired Posted Jun 24, 2005
Traveller inTime configuring his DNA breeder
"What I understood from the 'Dalek Emperor' was he used some cells (human tissue) for the procreation and modified the human DNA to his needs.
These Daleks will once be; heavy mutated humans fitting in the war costume. Probably quite like the Dalek in episode 'Dalek', some mollusc like brainy creature.
NB I made an Episode Guide for this thread < A4249253 >, including Voting for the best. "
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Jun 24, 2005
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4620407.stm
Oh and Reefgirl, thanks
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) Posted Jun 25, 2005
If you mean the pics of Jack, don't thank me thank a lady known as Egeria from Gateworld
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
Smij - Formerly Jimster Posted Jun 29, 2005
Paully solved that last mystery for me - why Bad Wolf. It's because the second she leaves the Tardis, after being filled with that glow from the heart of the Tardis, they're the first words she sees. So it's possible that the station is actually run by the Bad Wolf corporation, and that there is Bad Wolf TV, but that all the other references are messages being corrupted to draw her back to that place because she knows that Bad Wolf is where the Doctor is, and that she must be there too.
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
Alfster Posted Jun 29, 2005
Well, yes. For 13 weeks everyone was going on about who was Bad Wolf (a name probably set-up by RTD to do just that) when in fact Bad Wolf is just a post-it-note through time - a memory jog for something Rose does not even know about.
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
Smij - Formerly Jimster Posted Jun 29, 2005
Or an adherence to a repeated Meme - which just happens to be the name of a race of aliens seen in End of the World the ones with the, er, balls).
Clever, eh?
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
Mol - on the new tablet Posted Jun 30, 2005
Ah yes. Cleverer than the Adherents of the Repeated Mean, which is what I thought they were. Statisticians or something.
Mol
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
Smij - Formerly Jimster Posted Jul 4, 2005
Did I actually explain my cryptic 'The clue's in a bit of clever design' hint the other week?
Just in case - look at the piping behind the controller in 'Bad Wolf'. The second she disappears, look behind where she was standing. If you miss that, look at the piping that's visible behind where she was standing when the Doctor and co look at the screen that reveals the presence of the Daleks.
I'm *certain* that the layout of that piping is exactly the same as the design that was on the front of the old Emperor, which forms a hexagon. That the Controller had been standing there with pipes running into her adds to the idea that the Emperor lives. Look at any pic of the old Emperor and you'll see what I mean.
Course, any sense of smugness I felt was ruined by the trailer. The problem was, I knew how Nick Briggs does his Emperor Dalek voice, so that one struck me as too obvious. I'm so glad so many other people were speculating it was Davros, or Adam. Marvellous to see how many red herrings were left there. he only one I could be certain of being wrong was that Adam couldn't possibly be Davros - in Genesis of the Daleks, we learn that Davros believes that there are no other planets capable of sustaining life apart from Skaro. He wouldn't claim that if he'd been born on Earth...
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
fieldwalker Posted Jul 5, 2005
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2005/07/04/20378.shtml
Here we go again...
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
The Researcher has Retired Posted Jul 5, 2005
and, on a cheerful note: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4651245.stm
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
eloisa Posted Jul 5, 2005
Hmm, nominated in a catagory(sp?) with Bradley Walsh! Not saying the lovely Ecclescake is a snob but can't see him turning up for this.
On a lighter note, Patsy Kensit for best actress? You are having a laugh.
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Jul 6, 2005
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) Posted Jul 6, 2005
Patsy Kensit has been married to several old rockers, Jim Kerr and Liam Gallagher to name 2
Doctor Who- spoilers (plus Bad Wolf discussion)
Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Jul 6, 2005
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Dr Who - Spoilers
- 641: The Doc (Jun 23, 2005)
- 642: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (Jun 23, 2005)
- 643: Smij - Formerly Jimster (Jun 23, 2005)
- 644: fieldwalker (Jun 23, 2005)
- 645: This Researcher is Gone (Jun 24, 2005)
- 646: Mol - on the new tablet (Jun 24, 2005)
- 647: Traveller in Time Reporting Bugs -o-o- Broken the chain of Pliny -o-o- Hired (Jun 24, 2005)
- 648: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Jun 24, 2005)
- 649: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (Jun 25, 2005)
- 650: Smij - Formerly Jimster (Jun 29, 2005)
- 651: Alfster (Jun 29, 2005)
- 652: Smij - Formerly Jimster (Jun 29, 2005)
- 653: Mol - on the new tablet (Jun 30, 2005)
- 654: Smij - Formerly Jimster (Jul 4, 2005)
- 655: fieldwalker (Jul 5, 2005)
- 656: The Researcher has Retired (Jul 5, 2005)
- 657: eloisa (Jul 5, 2005)
- 658: Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences (Jul 6, 2005)
- 659: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (Jul 6, 2005)
- 660: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Jul 6, 2005)
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