A Conversation for Talking Point: Peer Pressure
Peer pressure mis-named?
Maolmuire Started conversation Aug 22, 2001
The term 'peer pressure' makes it seem as if the group are focussing their attention on an individual in order to pressure them into conforming to the group norm. But isn't it fair to say that the willingness of the individual to conform is a more important factor in individual/group relations? Most people are in a group situation because they want to be. The exceptions that spring to mind are school, work and at home.
So, my two cents worth: peer pressure is passive in nature, the urge to conform on the part of the individual is the active ingredient here.
Peer pressure mis-named?
Prez HS (All seems relatively quiet here) Posted Aug 23, 2001
It works both ways, I'll give you that, but it goes too far to say the urge to conform on the part of the one is paramount. There is most definitely an urge from the group to have the individual conform and blend in.
I think it's like this: the individual wants to be part of the group, but it's the group that demands the individual to conform while joining.
Peer pressure mis-named?
greylady Posted Aug 23, 2001
But a group is just a collection of individuals. So if each one wants to belong to the group who is that starts laying down the definitions of how to acheive that? Surely the individuals are going to tend towards those who's desires fit their own. No doubt someone will have a counter point to this but then isn't that the point of these discussions?
Peer pressure mis-named?
starlet Posted Aug 24, 2001
then a group is surely defined by its behavior as opposed to the fact that any individual chooses to be a part of it.
peer pressure could be defined as the desire of the group to confirm its identifying behaviours eg: a non-smoker makes a group of smokers look apathetic about its health
Peer pressure mis-named?
Clarke The Cynic -Keeper of all things darned (socks/souls). Posted Aug 25, 2001
Personally, I don't believe peer pressure is actually a thing that exists per se. What it is, is a misconception on the part of the individual. Without any prompting from the group, the individual feels that a thing is required of him/her merely because it has been suggested that he/her do it. The emotions and insecurities of the individual attempt to hide behind a facade, a "Look, I'm just like all of you." mask, whereas, if the act is not played out, the "victim" feels that any inconsistencies or weaknesses in him/herself will be highlighted.
Peer pressure mis-named?
Prez HS (All seems relatively quiet here) Posted Aug 27, 2001
There are many kinds of signals a group can send to an individual to build pressure. Verbal, silent, or just by turning away and not giving signals at all, that's a signal too. Peer pressure is not merely a question of the perception by the indiv.
Groups usually have no difficulty making known who is part of them, and who isn't. Gang colours are an example. Peer pressure in one form would be that the gang asks of you to wear the same gang colours. Fairly innocnet, and understandable. However, if it is then also made known to the indiv that there is a war going on with a certain other gang, peer pressure is a lot nastier, but not different. Where is these examples can you say that the pressure is merely perceived by the individual?
Peer pressure mis-named?
cafram - in the states. Posted Aug 27, 2001
It's human nature to want to be a part of something, to want to conform, yet it's also human nature to want to stand out from the crowd; "I'm an individual like everybody else" - everyone wants to belong - it's a basic instinct, in which case the peer pressure is almost an unconcious thing - I doubt a group of people sit around going "let's make Tony smoke", it's more likely to be Tony watching thm smoke, and wanting to be friends with them, and feeling that in order to be friends with them he /must/ start smoking.
Screwed up world we live in, eh?!
Peer pressure mis-named?
Prez HS (All seems relatively quiet here) Posted Aug 27, 2001
no, it isn't. we're just people in need of recognition. by smoking, tony acknowledges that he's part of a smoking group (or, by Jove, that he likes cigarettes: it's not all peer pressure mind you), and by smoking with him, the group acknowledges that they're with tony.
Oh and another thing about smoking: there's also a feeling of maturity in there, which is also not just peer pressure. you smoke, therefor you are a man. like shaving, only you can't do that yet. Like chest hair, only you don't have that yet. so you smoke, and you prance around a lot, and you swear. hopefully, some girl will think your older and more impressive than you think you are...
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Peer pressure mis-named?
- 1: Maolmuire (Aug 22, 2001)
- 2: Prez HS (All seems relatively quiet here) (Aug 23, 2001)
- 3: greylady (Aug 23, 2001)
- 4: starlet (Aug 24, 2001)
- 5: Clarke The Cynic -Keeper of all things darned (socks/souls). (Aug 25, 2001)
- 6: Prez HS (All seems relatively quiet here) (Aug 27, 2001)
- 7: cafram - in the states. (Aug 27, 2001)
- 8: Prez HS (All seems relatively quiet here) (Aug 27, 2001)
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