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A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
§hadow Started conversation Apr 25, 2001
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A540127
How to Perform the Woopty-Dooper, Loopty-Looper, Alley-Ooper Bounce as seen in "The Tigger Movie".
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[From time to time every man is tempted to hoist the skull and crossbones and slit a few throats.]
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
Martin Harper Posted Apr 25, 2001
Dare I suggest that this gripping piece of instructional wizardry isn't 100%, died-to-the-bone, completely and utterly factual?
You can still do it, of course, but a mention of the fictional nature of tigers with springs in their tails might be handy, no?
Other stuff: I'd like to see a section on what you need to perform the bounce: IE, a bouncy tail and suchlike. Oh, and I'd rather have it named "The Woopty-Dooper, Loopty-Looper, Alley-Ooper Bounce", myself. I'm not a fan of abbreviations...
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
xyroth Posted Apr 26, 2001
I'm not suggesting plaguarism, but theentry read like the instructions were taken directly from the film. if this is the case, it is likely to be deleted.
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
Martin Harper Posted Apr 26, 2001
bah - it's fair use: credit's been given, it's a small section, and it's for the purpose of reviewing (a part of) the film. I'd be very surprised if it got vaped. But, if you wanna hit the "yikes" button...
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
xyroth Posted Apr 26, 2001
not me, but if too much of it is copyright, then it won't matter that you gave them credit, it will breach the terms and conditions. if it is paraphrased, it might get past without a problem.
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
Barton Posted Apr 26, 2001
Lucinda,
You don't have a bouncy tail . . . and suchlike? Oh, you mean some of 'them' don't. Poor things!
Plagiarism? It would only be plagiarism if he included an mp3 file.
I do feel, however, that some of the language is extiggerishly technical an should be simplified for . . . them. (How can they even begin to understand without a bouncy tail and, particularly, without a suchlike? Isn't there some sort of prostiggerish surgery to help . . . them?
Barton
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
§hadow Posted Apr 26, 2001
Okay, first things first. I guess you have to understand that it's a Winnie the Pooh character I was writing about, NOT Tigers, TIGGERS. That's Tee-Eye-Double Guh-Er!
Secondly, it's been completely paraphrased, except where directly quoted and in those sections I used quotation marks.
Thirdly, Credit was stated and given, I'll add the Disney info, that it's trademarked, etc... Good idea there, thank you.
Lastly, as a Scout, ACE, Guru and soon to be (hopefully) a Subeditor as well, I have a good idea of what material can and cannot be put up for inclusion into The Guide, give me SOME credit of knowing my jobs. This is a legal submission.
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[From time to time, every man is tempted to hoist the skull and crossbones and slit a few throats.]
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
John the gardener says, "Free Tibet!" Posted Apr 26, 2001
One of the jobs you'll have endless fun doing, when you become a Sub-editor is changing double quotes to singles.
The weird and slightly nasty thing about cutting people's throats should go (act surprised), as should the signature.
JTG
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
Martin Harper Posted Apr 26, 2001
> "this has been transcripted from Tigger's own words."
> "it's been completely paraphrased"
Umm. Which one?
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
§hadow Posted Apr 27, 2001
It's a quote from my favorite author and concerns human nature, the keyword is TEMPTED. The fact that you respond negatively to it, simply reveals that you're ashamed that you yourself have felt that emotion before. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Welcome to the human race.
It wound up in the article itself accidentally, I was pasting to an Email and I put it in there instead. Ah well, these things do happen from time to time.
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§hadow
[From time to time, every man is TEMPTED to hoist the skull and crossbones and slit a few throats.]
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
§hadow Posted Apr 27, 2001
Sorry, I used the wrong word, it should read dictated, not transcripted. It's meant to be facitious, like the rest of the article. You're taking this a bit too seriously aren't you Lucinda?~§~
§hadow
[From time to time, every man is tempted to hoist the skull and crossbones and slit a few throats.]
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
Barton Posted Apr 27, 2001
I'd like to suggest that we start a fund to benenfit those who are missing important parts of their anatomy.
Please send all contributions to the
Tigger Tails for Tired Typers Fund
and help put a new spring in their backsides.
Meanwhile: What else could be done here? I personally would like to opt for a diagram of the foot/tailprint on the floor variety. Unfortunately, it would a) look like a picture of a cloud chamber at ground zero of a major cyclotron and b) not be very likely to be allowed into the guide.
Shouldn't there be some major reference to Milne here and a discussion of the difference between what he created and what Disney interpreted? Not in this article, of course, but in a companion entry -- something on the order of Major Literary Stuffed Animals and How They Changed Our Society.
I've never been much for stuffed animals so I can't write it. (Though, I am considering a retrospective on the significance of The Wizard of Oz.) Yes, I'm afraid I was never exposed to Pooh and Co. till I way past the age of reading such things. *My* parents bought me a World Book Encyclopedia and I think I was on Volume C or D at that time (I exaggerate, of course. I was really only in B. It was a tragic childhood.)
Seriously, I don't see much point in adding to *this* article. It serves its purpose and will make a lovely Easter egg for people wandering through the guide.
I *do* recommend expanding the title as has been suggested as it will be more likely to be accessed from a search list that way.
Barton
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
Martin Harper Posted Apr 27, 2001
I think you could lose the (c) and the (tm)s you've added, though. And the disclaimer, come to that.
Why not put the list of steps and the list of rules in BLOCKQUOTEs and Italic, to make them stand out a bit from the rest of the entry? Make it clearer that they're quotes, that kinda thing...
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
Barton Posted Apr 27, 2001
Actually, after all this conversation about copyrighted and protected trade names, I find all of (C)'s and (TM)'s rather hilarious . . .
. . . They should be superscripted.
The discalaimer list at the end could be longer, much longer. The font size should be reduced to about "-6" to insure it is the smallest available on the brouser.
You might also want to add a disclaimer at the front of the article with a link to a safer, less frankly explicit version. (Is there a guide entry on Thomas Bowdler?)
You might also want to preceed your article with descriptions of coming attractions from Disney Studios to further guarantee that it is in Disney's interest to let this article stand.
Barton
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A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
§hadow Posted Apr 28, 2001
Sorry, have to leave all that fancy stuff to the Subs. I don't know GuideML yet. I'm a bit busy at work learning SMS 2.0 and SQL 7.0 and just can NOT fit another computer language in, me tiny brain will explode. After the SMS and SQL comes C, C+ and C++, so it'll be awhile before GuideML sneaks into my repetoire. Sorry again.
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§hadow
[From time to time, every man is tempted to hoist the skull and crossbones and slit a few throats.]
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
§hadow Posted May 1, 2001
Oh by the by I did change the title to How to Perform the Woopty-Dooper, Loopty-Looper, Alley-Ooper Bounce.
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§hadow
[From time to time, every man is tempted to hoist the skull and crossbones and slit a few throats.]
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
Dancer (put your advert here) Posted May 7, 2001
Nobody will "Yiykes" you for using Disney's stuff, But you can't possibly think it can go into the edited guide.
It's a nice entry, but seems out of place in peer review.
A540127 - How to Perform the WDLLAOB
Barton Posted May 7, 2001
Dancer,
You are just prejudiced because you don't have a tail. I'm sure that many intersteller hitchhikers will benefit from this entry.
Barton
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- 5: xyroth (Apr 26, 2001)
- 6: Barton (Apr 26, 2001)
- 7: §hadow (Apr 26, 2001)
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