h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

I'm a bit puzzled by that analogy 'Rho'. Does this mean that aces are not allowed to make complaints about researchers because they're not allowed to have their own views? Or perhaps that researchers, who are also aces, are restricted in what they may do away from the site?

Although the aces have failed in my case to make me stick. I've been away since October without one of them caring.

Yours in moderation, Roger.

> Does this mean that aces are not allowed to make complaints about researchers because they're not allowed to have their own views?

Of course it doesn't mean that - a complaint made by a Researcher who is also an ACE is (or at least should be - I can't *prove* that this is the case) treated identically to those made by any other researcher.


> Or perhaps that researchers, who are also aces, are restricted in what they may do away from the site?

The ACEs' Code of Conduct only applies on h2g2.


The purpose of posting the analogy was to offer an alternative view of the situation, and to attempt to convey the message that blindly flaming any h2g2 researcher will achieve nothing. Instead, Telewest, who made the decision to remove digibox users' access to h2g2, would be the organisation to contact.


Rho

So what's this thread about then? It can't be about the fact that 'aka' wrote to 'Telewest', since he did that off site. So what's the problem with 'aka'? Is there somewhere he has expressed his own views on site? Is this against the rules? Is the way he did it against the rules?

No one really seems to explain anything 'round here; it's just a load of ad hominem attacks.

I also note this 'SEF' character resorts to ad hominem tu quoque attacks far too often .

Yours very, very disappointed, Roger.

* watches that go /way/ over his head *

Perhaps there's an article in this for you, Roger. I get really lost when people start talking about "ad hominem" and "tu quoque" all over the place. A nice clear howto guide to arguments would be great! Plus PeerReview is a great way to see another side to the community.

spelugx

That's rich Roger, coming from someone whose first actions on the site were a clear breach of the rules here and probably most other places (ie impersonation), despite claiming to know it all, and whose early posts were unprovoked ad hominem attacks on Spelugx and others - leading me to speculate you might already know him from real life to take such an attitude.

I'm terrible sorry for that, SEF. I should never have said such a thing about another researcher on this guide. I hope you can find it in yourself to forgive someone like myself for the things I've said and done so far. A fresh start, one might call it, but only by your leave?

Yours humbly, Roger.

I hope you'll forgive me, but I'm not going to take part in yet another thread on the same 'issue'.

1) I have not done the reversal of the Ace's job by 'throwing people off the site'. I've just wrote a letter. Is that so wrong? What happens as a result of that letter is ultimately down to the person who 'flicks the switch'.

2) I really cannot be bothered with this now. What I suggest we all do, is take it that the 'digibox' access is wrong, and against Telewest's will; they can't have shut it off if they /wanted/ people to abuse the loophole. If it says closed, it says closed. If it opens up again, then fine. It opens up. Do I need to say that I haven't personally banned anybody from the site?

3)

One final point. I've been contacted via e-mail about the Aces' Code of Conduct. As a Thread in the Aces' Code of Conduct forum, it has no point.

This is interesting. I don't see any reason why aka shouldn't be an ACE. I don't see any reason why *I* couldn't be an ACE if I wanted to. We are both in the habit of welcoming anyone and everyone to the clubs we are involved in. Surely that's reason enough...

I don't believe you are sincere Roger, because you chose to attack me specifically in this thread when I have not made a single ad hominem attack here and it would be very unusual for me to make any at all. Actually, looking back, the whole thread is surprisingly devoid of ad hominem attacks - merely descriptions of people's actions where they are actually relevant rather than personal remarks (and therefore not fitting the definition) - that is until the point where you come in and make an unjustified and irrelevant attack on me.

Just thought I'd clear this up...

"Although the aces have failed in my case to make me stick. I've been away since October without one of them caring."

Failed to make you stick? You're here now, aren't you?

The list Aces work by to see what Researchers are new is a little flawed. It works by showing those who have not had a posting on their User Space as ungreeted Newbs; Thus, any Researcher who posts to their own space in a state of confusion for instance gets missed. Also, it can be a fast paced job, sometimes, in the case where there are tonnes and tonnes of new users.

Say for instance, h2g2 is plugged on a TV documentuary. Many, many people may flock to h2g2 and signup. Say, about 50-100 users in an hour. Perhaps. Only a few of those will be noticed - and as time progresses, you slowly 'age' as a Researcher (keep in mind, the last time this happened [h2g2 was featured on the Tribute to Douglas Adams documentuary on BBC Two], h2g2 slowed down a lot) and get further down the list, until perhaps you're a week old, at such a time, (New this Week) stops appearing next to your name on the <./>online</.> list, and you may not be Aced at all since then.

I think there should be a system whereby Aces get a special button, á la "This person has now been Welcomed", and the list only shows those who don't have a true Welcome status.

We use this page as a back up now, to make sure that no-one gets missed by posting to themself etc. Only ACEs posts mark it as 'cleared'

Actually two of us have just done 40 plus aceings in the last half hour

IF THIS SITE WAS BROADCAST ON TV WILL THEY FAIL TO MENTION WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO CAUSE DISTRESS TO THE HANDCAP DIGI BOX USERS THAT A SO CALLED HAVE HAD BANNED FRON USING THIS SITE U SHOULD TRY TO READ SOME OF THE FORUMS BRINGING DOWN THIS SITES REP AS A RESULT OF THIS 1 PERSONS ACTIONS

that page being A1911296

Is it just me who can't quite understand that post?

40 plus ACE-ings????!!!! *totally impressed*

I THINK THIS SITE HAVE MANY PROBLEMS TO SORT OUT ONE BEING SOME PEOPLE CAN USE FOUL WORDS AND WHEN COMPLAINED ABOUT NOTHING IS DONE WHILE OTHERS HAVE POSTS REMOVED FOR ALOT LESS WHO MAKES THE RULE COULD IT BE THESE PEOPLE WHO GET AWAY WITH IT ARE ACES

If you find 'foul words' on h2g2, those that are not asterisked "*****" out, or Bleeped out "", then click on the relevant yikes button, as instructed somewhere on the page (It depends what skin you're using)

Anything that breaks the House Rules will be removed, btm; Whether they're h2g2 Volunteers or not.

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FUNNY YOU ANSWERE POSTING WHEN IT WAS ONE OF YOUR THREADS THE WORD PISS WAS POSTED AKA