h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

It doesn't need brackets. It's a rule. There's a name for it that I will think of in just a mo.

Order of Operations?

I apologise. I was ignorant of this rule until you pointed it out

*The pirate enters, followed by a somewhat depressed looking android*

: Well, here we are, metal boy. Remember what I told you?

Marvin: Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and you want me to talk to a radio?

: Well, er, not exactly. I want you to log on to the BBC mainframe and tell it all about your life, what it has done to you and how it makes you feel. Just start at the very beginning.

Marvin: I am sure it won't like that

: Well, that's the general idea...

::freaking out:: The Zaphodista Army of Cybernautical liberation page is now pending moderation. ::waits around for the bad news:: Someone?? Anyone??? Hello?

Hello!

Zero reporting in:

Sign me up for some liberation!


What do you mean "under moderation"? Take closer look at the ADDRESS, add a strategically placed zero and presto , there it is.
(Its really A520769)

Viva la Zaphodistas!

Hehehehe....Sorry...i think the missing Don't Panic button is really starting to get to me. Though the Zaphodista page really was gone for a lil bit, (pending moderation) but Peta just cleared the whole situation up.


::snickers at herself::
~Imal

Omigosh...you were right...that wasnt the Zaphodista page, that was a page on education. I'm so silly. Thank you for clearing that up. Sheesssshhh...:;slaps self in forehead:: I dun't know if I'm fit for life as a revolutionary...hehehe...sigh.


::still laughing uneasily::
~

Ahem, and my U#:162852

Too many s last night. Feeling a little .
Maybe I should stick to !

VIVE LA ZAPHODISTAS!!

Sign me up, please... U107686

Anyone want some ?

mari-rae

Yes, please...

Wumbeevil wrote: "Peregrin, if the censors noted the house rules and let postings stand which were within them instead of removing anything they have the slightest doubt about, the rest would have more time to clear the backlog. I have already suggested to Peta a tagging system for doubtful postings instead of this guilty until proven innocent approach. Her response was the Godfrey case which has little to do with doubtful postings. Demon left the false posting in Dr Godfrey's name stay up for ten days after receiving his complaint."

Not only is the Godfrey/Demon case of dubious applicability, but any precedent set by it has been superseded by EU Directive 2000/31/EC which clearly states in Article 15 [ahem]:

"Member States shall not impose a general obligation on providers, when providing [hosting] services, to monitor the information which they transmit or store, nor a general obligation actively to seek facts or circumstances indicating illegal activity"

Furthermore, Article 14 makes it clear exactly what the Beeb's legal responsibilities are [ahem]:

"Where [hosting] service is provided..., Member States shall ensure that the service provider is not liable for the information stored... on the condition that: (a) The provider does not have actual knowledge of illegal activity or information and ... is not aware of facts or circumstances from which the illegal activity or information is apparent; or (b) the provider, upon obtaining such knowledge or awareness, acts expeditiously to remove or to disable access to the information."

To summarize, the BBC is NOT legally required to pro-actively moderate. If there is a Linda-button complaint, then they ARE required to investigate and act accordingly, but that's not what we're seeing now, is it?

[the above information comes from EU Directive 2000/31/EC, which can be found using any of your better search engines. Actually, I'll set up a link to it on my personal space now... gimme a sec.]

GTB, of the Zaphodista Legal Team

Ok, outside link posted and tested - there it is at the very top of my own space. Now on with the rant...

So, it is established that the BBC has NO obligation to do what it's doing under relevant Internet law, but there is another thick legal document to consider: http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/BBCcharter/index_cf.htm

That's the BBC's charter, which ties it to the crown and makes it different from any ol' private ISP. I still need to pore over that one, and I'll do it soon, although it's written in thick British Legalese (and I thought languages like that were /verboten/! Bubblish is certainly easier to understand!)

I suspect that what's going on is not a legal issue at all. The BBC is a BROADCASTING company, and always has been. They imagine that H2G2 is another BBC PRODUCTION, and they are accustomed to having censorial control over their own productions. It must drive them crazy to think that any anonymous freak could post anything they want on a page which clearly bears the name 'BBC ONLINE'. Well, it IS the twenty-first century, and such is the Internet. H2G2 is NOT a BBC PRODUCTION, and it will NOT be one. If they want to HOST us (which is fine! I like being hosted), then they have to learn what it means to be a HOST on the Internet. A new business paradigm is required for dealing with the Internet! (DNA regularly makes this point more eloquently than I can.)

So, anyway, I guess I've shouted enough for now. I'd really like to go work on a non-Zaphodista-related entry, I think.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/F63567?thread=104812&post=876439 I no longer have any doubts about this movement.

thats' pathetic, I was wrong, the golden age of H2 hasn't ended, it's be flushed down the 'F'in toilet

I part of that last statement, make it read :

thats pathetic, wrong and unjustified in my view. I hope it is allowed to be changed back.

(I apologise, my day has gotten consitently worse since this morning and my anger got the better of me, it won't happen again)

oh, go on, sign me up. rage against the machine and all that jazz.

(don't forget your user number, UH...)

My original page about my Bonsai was removed and I was unable to reactivate it. The poetry corner I was a loyal patron of was dissolved. On top of that, I can never 'ecrit en francais'. I render to you the services of the (un)Official Zen Garden. VIVE LA ZAPHODIA!!!

U129295

but you could just scroll over my user name. its that easy.