h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

These seem to be they:

If you post other DNA site links to POV threads you run the risk of being moderated and possibly banned from posting to the board and/or the threads. (POV is the BBC's Points of View message board with which we are registered through the Single Sign On (SSO) system we use to log on with h2g2.)
If you leave a message on a POV userspace that may also lead you to problems.
If you post to POV threads after 22.00GMT the posts will be moderated.
'Zarquon' appears to be a moderateable expression among the ican moderators (ican is another of the SSO DNA sites). If they moderate your user name it appears moderated here on h2g2.
Suggesting that h2g2 is a good site is ...disliked by the GetWriting Editors and can earn a virtual rap over the knuckles (GetWriting is another SSO DNA site).


Anyone know anymore or any better?

Well done, you've managed to make sweeping generalisations with virtually every single word of your first post... You've taken specific issues and generalised them to such an extreme level that they've become completely meaningless.

One question for you - is your post a genuine complaint? If so, I'd suggest you read the house rules of the various sites and look at the specific cases in question again, or, alternatively - is this just an attempt to stir up trouble?

I don't know why ZSF was but the others are all for specific reasons which make sense to me.

Traveller in Time cryptic
"I would not jump into conclusions. .

Just mentioning a keyword 'Stalking'

Getwriting is going to close < A3394514 > read it with great care.

And perhaps I do know more of these. . .
"

I hate to sound ignorant But what does all this mean I can't post to Get Writing or such.

It's an attempt to get and share information Whisky.

Why are researchers being left to flounder like this?

I've no idea how generally the examples I've found apply. That's part of the point. The points I listed don't look general to me. If you know more of the specifics perhaps you could share them.

I'm not going to search out every DNA site's houserules - I've already read those I accepted on signing on. If changes are made to those they need announcing so that we're aware of them.

Yeah but this means I can't post on GW after 4 pm my time. What's with that?

"If you post other DNA site links to POV threads you run the risk of being moderated and possibly banned"

So that would be why they advertise other dna sites, viz. h2g2 on the main message board listing:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/messageboards/

over on cult & science etc:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?board=cult
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?board=science

and on the a-to-z site listing (2 clicks from POV via info link)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbpointsofview/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/contactus/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/a-z/h.shtml

IE the usual double-standards really.

Your Zarquon example is more peculiar though; but only for it getting moderated at all and not for it showing up the same way on h2g2. It's SSO remember. They don't really let you sign up in one go but they do only save one nickname version for all dna sites. The issue of nicknames was previously a significant one when the ww2 sub-site came online.

I've read the threads TiT, interpreting them as stalking shows a lack of understanding of 'community' in the term 'online community' on the part of those making the decisions.

I also know GetWriting's closing . I never doubted it. Again telling researchers off for attempts to help Get Writing menbers shows a peculiar lack of community spirit in the management of the DNA sites.
Waz

Well We Get Writers have found and made some very good alternative sites. Yep we plan to hang about like a merry band of poets and writers.

It's POV not GW that has the time limit, TheKid. Sorry to worry you there.

GW never closes .

Well until April, make the most of it, hey?

Cool I was agast with terror. I yak a lot over there. hahaha Thanks Guy.

Gal

And good luck with those alternative sites.

** Sigh ** I didn't really want to waste my time doing this, but I will anyway...


"If you post other DNA site links to POV threads you run the risk of being moderated and possibly banned from posting to the board and/or the threads. (POV is the BBC's Points of View message board with which we are registered through the Single Sign On (SSO) system we use to log on with h2g2.)"

Not true - there are numerous cases littered around the POV site of people posting links to other DNA sites... Again, in one specific case someone who was posting to the POV threads has got into trouble, but it is not simply for posting links.



"If you leave a message on a POV userspace that may also lead you to problems."

Depends on the content of the message... If I leave messages on your h2g2 userspace that could be interpreted as breaking the house rules then I could well be moderated - the site has nothing to do with it (at least in the case to which you are referring).



"If you post to POV threads after 22.00GMT the posts will be moderated."

POV is _closed_ after 22:00 therefore as there are no moderators to check the posts (and POV is post moderated, not not reactively moderated like hootoo) - if you manage to post via another SSO account it should be pretty obvious that your post won't appear....


"'Zarquon' appears to be a moderateable expression among the ican moderators (ican is another of the SSO DNA sites). If they moderate your user name it appears moderated here on h2g2."

On the other hand this might one day be a snag with SSO and DNA... not sure what the development team could do about names appearing on different sites (the one that strikes me as being a likely problem is if they introduce a 'kids only' DNA site - imagine some hootoo-type nicknames appearing on a who's online list of five year olds ...




Suggesting that h2g2 is a good site is ...disliked by the GetWriting Editors and can earn a virtual rap over the knuckles (GetWriting is another SSO DNA site).

Nothing of the sort... for reasons we haven't seen the getwriting editors seem to be worried about the fallout of the getwriting community descending 'en-masse' on hootoo when and if their site closes down and are currently trying to discourage this from happening - What is going on behind the scenes we don't know, but you can guarantee that in an organisation as large as the bbc then internal politics and budgets won't be far away from such an issue.

"if they introduce a 'kids only' DNA site"

That's not an "if" and the problem had already arisen with ww2.

Whisky - I got side tracked and knew i didnt have time to go through it.

The thing about not posting to POV user spaces is that it has been mentioned to us in a Hub thread (- same one as Ancient Brit asked about the POV board I think - too tired to find the link) that the messageboard users are being introduced to the new board (POV) slowly and the staff are guiding the users through the DNA set up and functionality. They are concentrating on the message threads and at a later date they will be introduced on what their user spaces mean.

As far as Get Writing goes - the staff are trying to find the most suitable site(s) that can supply writing support and workshops, which h2g2 doesn't. Whilst all members of the site are welcome here, what they don't want is lots of GW writers coming here with expectations of the UG and fiction central to be offering as much feedback, structured writing advice etc. With the best will in the world the UG doesn't do that. It is about finding the best alternative site that can provide the support similar to what the users have enjoyed on GW.

Sorry that took ages to write so possibly a myriad of posts in front of this now!

"That's not an if" - I know but was keeping things theoretical as it's a) not yet publicised and b) not aimed at hootoo users.

"the problem had already arisen with ww2." That's the main reason I lost the "consultant retro-phrenologist" bit off my nickname... whisky passes (just) on wwii, but the rest of was totally inappropriate for the site. Maybe that's something that should be developped eventually (I vaguely remember that when SSO was implemented that there was talk of some sites using the login name instead of a nickname as their on-screen ID - maybe that would be a possibility to avoid problems)

PS - This isn't meant as a slight of the UG - I should have put "With the best will in the world the UG or h2g2 doesn't do that."

Traveller in Time on his head
"I do not know a lesser word for stalking, but concidering the POV members did not even have a Personal Space on their message board, any message to a member will be concidered personal and more direct then the member might appreciate. "