h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

I've not seen anything to suggest that 'Zarquon' is moderateable - there's nothing in the rules that I've seen. I must admit I was a bit put out at my nickname being moderated. I've been using it for over three years.

"not aimed at hootoo users"

Well duh! Of course not. That's not relevant to the discussion of examples though.

"not yet publicised"

Untrue (depending on how well publicised something has to be in order to be labelled as publicised by a company which claims not to advertise). For example this trail
from message boards listing
http://www.bbc.co.uk/messageboards/
to Teens onion street
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?board=onion14-16
to blog
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/onionstreet/

That looks like quite a public listing to me.

I can imagine it's slightly off putting ZSF... I'd be interested in finding out what their reasoning was... especially as your name is now exactly the same but with several added words...

Maybe the moderator on duty at the time wasn't a fan of douglas adams and someone complained that the idea of fish singing is offensive to a small group of people somewhere on a pacific island who worship musical marine animals

**Patiently awaiting the appearance of the previous post...**

I didn't see it, Whisky - I was at home looking after a sick little when the e-mail came through and I replied more or less straight away, however, I haven't had a response yet.

Natalie kindly sent me an e-mail, so I forwarded the original moderation e-mail to her.

Are there really new rules for Hootooers?

Don't worry, there's nothing to see yet... I was talking about post 23, which is someone on Pre-mod... (Is that you SEF?)

As for there being new rules... Nope, just some confusion over specific cases being taken as generalisations

Post 22 - I can't count...

No there aren't new rules for hootooers.

All that has happened is that there is yet another DNA site thrown into the mix, and as a result there is yet another set potentially conflicting editorial outlooks. 'Tis a nuisance, but should be nothing more. And I confidently expect it all to settle down in time.

Oh, I see. (Post 22 was your own - - mind you, I can't talk - I can't count often either!)

Whisky, post 22 is almost certianly SEF. In fact I'd stake me house on it being so.

* waves to SEF when she reappears *

I will say, the mods are being a little slow at the moment. Perhaps there is some sort of a bun fight over on the 606 board that is attracting their attention at the moment. There usually is something kicking off about this time of day

Looks like you can keep your house GD.

Can I just clarify something? - Is it true that "zarquon" was not modded as a nickname. Rather Zarquon's full name and tagline were modded? If so what was the full name and tag?

"Suggesting that h2g2 is a good site is ...disliked by the GetWriting Editors and can earn a virtual rap over the knuckles (GetWriting is another SSO DNA site).

Nothing of the sort... for reasons we haven't seen the getwriting editors seem to be worried about the fallout of the getwriting community descending 'en-masse' on hootoo when and if their site closes down and are currently trying to discourage this from happening - What is going on behind the scenes we don't know, but you can guarantee that in an organisation as large as the bbc then internal politics and budgets won't be far away from such an issue."

I wish y'all would trust the UG eds to know what they're talking about more often Waz knows what she's talking about. Reasons you haven't seen aren't necessarily reasons we haven't seen - what's going on behind the scenes you don't know isn't what we don't know.

I think Waz is right. Unfortunately

My full nickname was 'Zarquon's Singing Fish!' - I put the current (hopefully temporary) one in as the original was modded and I feel rather naked without it. I suppose I could have reduced it to ZSF!, but I feel rather better as it is and a bit more like me. I have no idea how it can be considered offensive or misleading or impersonating someone, which seem to be the main reasons nicknames are moderated.

Maybe because you're not a fish.

Who knows!

Thanks for the explanation ZSF It'll be interesting to see what the Editors say.

Whisky, I have experienced the virtual rap over the knuckles with regard to GW personally. And my conversations with GWers have never suggested they would get the same set up as they currently have.

All I'm reading here confirms that difficulties are arising when we cross DNA site boundaries. The different DNA sites are run by different sets of moderators and we're not clear what they will dislike. I naively considered myself belonging to all the DNA sites after SSO. I thought we were one community. I don't want to tread on other sites toes and would like some clarity on what's expected. Raising my impression of what's been happening for discussion, and asking if anyone knows more or better seemed a fair enough thing to do.

So it is ok then to link to h2g2 content when posting to POV? That's good, it's much easier to refer to discussions already had than to have to repeat them all.

As to leaving messages on POV userspaces the confusion reigns . There's; yes as long as the content is within house rules, we can but we're not wanted to, and any message at all might be considered too personal and direct.

On the POV closing time - do posts made after 22.00, that look moderated to those not in the know, reappear in the morning?
Waz

ooops only got as fas as post 20, sorry about that -reading second page now.

'confusion over specific cases being taken as generalisations.' isn't that worse than unknown rules? It suggest rules are being applied inconsistently to me.

'conflicting editorial outlooks' it's a pity these and internal politics spill over onto the site and catch people out, even if only temporarily. More openness might avoid some of them.

Personally I want nothing to do with any kind of territorial politics. If wasn't for the UG I'd have entirely ignored all pressure not to offer help to GWers. I remember what it felt like when this site closed. Not at all pleasant.

Traveller in Time on top
"The postings made on personal spaces after the closing times of POV (and 6music) seem to remain. (even from 16th December on)

About site confusion (not seeing the registered site of the account you are posting a message to) < F19585?thread=549445 > still a bit for the teasing.

Have a tour < U993628 > This one is around the societies, people interact completely. We are 'happy' the threads mask some of the answer -> reply sequences, conversations are everywhere with levels of being public or more personal.

Or board a round with < U1201043 > This one is passing the message boards, where the streets have no name, and the only communication goes on the frontpage Forums. They are promised an email notification of reply to their own specific posting as many get confused by the single line threading as we have on the DNA servers.

I think it is like with the Writers, they have chosen for a specific site, while they want to contribute to that site. They do not feel at home on HooToo, not while they are not welcome or banned, just while they have another perspective/ purpose of their contribution to the site.

Like when all more or less similar sites on the internet would go posting links to their site on each and every other. I think no one would really appreciate that."