h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Thanks MR
Interesting that the Cathars got classed as a heresy when they weren't really Christians at all. I find it hard to understand Calvinists. How did they know that they were the Elect? Then again I rarely understand how religious people of any faith are so certain that they have all the answers.

"The universe encompasses everywhere that you can get to from here."

Obviously, then, you can't leave it. But if you maen averything made by the Big Bang, or everywhere where our laws of physics apply, then maybe you can leave it.

"AP, you should go onto the "meaning of life" thread. AK and you... sparks will fly."

I may, but ironicly, since Homework is the Meaning of Life, I probably won't get a chance to inform them of that anytime soon.

"And who says sex is based on hormonal urges?"

What would you say its based on? Surely you don't deniy that hormones and the brain stem want you to have sex, whether you would want to conciously or not.

"Sex. That's not the point, AP. That's like a hermit saying "Oh, I acknowledge that the world might be good, but I can't go into it or I might be tempted". You can comprehend things rationally through thought or empirically through experiencing. Since more or less the only feedback we get from the universe is senses, it is our duty as sentient truth-seekers to experience as much as we can."

No, I'm not saying it might be good. I'm saying it might be enjoyable. However, since that enjoyment would be bad, it would be dangerous to experiance it since I would then be tempted to try it again.

Of course, you can't experiance everything with your sences, so you have to decide what you will experiance and what you will take others' word for. Sex is one thing I think I can take other peoples' word on. I don't won't benefit much from experiancing it, and since experianceing it might be dangerous, why should I?

Toxx

. Once again you respond to something I didn't say. The girls I spoke to weren't 12 when we had the conversation. I don't think it's uncommon to be pleased at losing ones virginity.

that was me moth not az.

I've met and spoken to many woman in my life and not a one has expressed those things to me, although I'd say the incidence in pleasure over the loss of virginity is higher in the male

It's never been clear to me why they thought they should act holy, anyway. If they were the Elect, they were predestiend to go to heaven no matter how sinful they were on Earth, and if they weren't, they might as well have fun here since they were destined for hellfire no matter what they did.

A question for anyone
The known universe is said to be expanding and cooling, Is it possible to leave our universe. Taking into account the laws of thermodynamics'.

No because upon 'leaving' the universe, you take it with you

AP
There were some small Calvinist sects that took just that attitude. I think that the rest of the Calvinists took their behaviour as proof that they weren't truly Elect and did the usual thing religious people did when they disagree.

Unless anyone knows different, everywhere created by the big bang, where our laws of physics apply, and everwhere you can get to from here, are synonymous.

Noggin

Noggin. Ah, you're correct if that is the definition of the universe. However, I would define it as: 'everywhere you can get to from here by travelling through space for any distance.' You would not, therefore, get from here to other space by travelling through space! But you could, logically possibly, get there from here in some other manner.

toxx

Sorry, Moth. I've already apologised to az for that error. You may well be correct although as far a heterosexual sex is concerned. The rate it is indulged in has to be equal for both sexes. I'm assuming, perhaps naively, that only two people are involved in the activity!

toxx

"Unless anyone knows different, everywhere created by the big bang, where our laws of physics apply, and everwhere you can get to from here, are synonymous."

They aren't. Some of the laws of physics we know about don't apply in a black hole, especially at the singularity at the center. We can get there, so there are places we can get where the laws of the universe may apply.

Also, logicaly, they are different, since there may be a way to get to a place where our laws of physcis don't apply and that wasn't made by the big bang, but we logicaly can't go somewhere we can't go.

Just because our laws don't work in a black hole, doesn't mean there aren't no rules governing it.
There can't be a way of going where the point of that place is that the way of getting there doesn't apply.

I completely agree, AP. Assuming, of course, that you intended to say 'may not apply' at the end of your second para. Logic dictates that you must have.

toxx

Mal. Agree with your first sentence but I find this one totally opaque! Can you rephrase it, please.

toxx

Toxx
Well, what I was trying to say was:
It's impossible to go somewhere where the laws of physics do not apply, because we need the laws of physics a) for us to go there and stay there, and b) for it to exist. Granted, not necessarily *our* laws of physics...

Thank you All.

My Simplistic view on the law of thermodynamics.

Heat is work, work is heat.
Heat pass form the hotter to the cooler. (at a exponential rate, which is dependent temperature and on insulation. around the hotter ) Implying no work is possible at absolute zero and below.

No movement, taking that movement is work.

So at some point just before you reach the end of our universe, ( assuming it gets colder the farther out you go) space slowly changes to something more, well harder to move in, as in a dead zone or something, Also where your energy requirements would become infinite. And quantum physics changes, the colder the atoms= the slower the vibration = the lower the atoms energy signature..! and less atom around losing to opportunity for the development of quantum strings and things. the fabric of space I understand.

Or have I got it wrong somewhere. "well yes, as you are unable to destroy energy completely, Only change it to a different state.
any ideas.

But what about Absolute Zero?

Please read
and less atoms around, losing the opportunity for the development
12 hours days are getting a kill,sorry

"I completely agree, AP. Assuming, of course, that you intended to say 'may not apply' at the end of your second para. Logic dictates that you must have."

I see your point.