h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Maybe the 'jerks' get the sex now, but don't get a lasting relationship, maybe the nice guys get to wait a bit longer but get lasting relationships out if it.

I don't think its pretending to be someone you arn't by having coffee and italian wine in England. If you are part italian then be part italian, accept that part of you. If you can't what women will? It gives you an edge, whats wrong with that. I didn't suggest being an italian stallion, thats enough to make any sensible woman run a mile, I said use your strengths to stand out from the crowd.

As for nightclubs, they are a good place to pick up a nice guy who is disguising their real identity of axe murderer. I generally didn't pick up men in clubs, unless I already knew them as friends. The way to do it, is to suggest meeting somewhere else the next day or whenever, that way a woman can give you a chance without wondering when the cutting starts. I often had to walk past the police station and drop a bloke off in there to cool off, its creepy when a bloke stalks you home when you have made it quite clear you are not interested. It subsequently puts you off picking up anyone in a club.

Just get laid all you can, Ford. Be a 'jerk'. You know it makes sense. Sod all this 'relationship' rubbish. Just make sure you don't catch a dose of anything. I made that mistake once. She was only 17. You can't be too careful.

Have you ever read 'Dilbert and the Way of the Weasel'? In the chapter on women it states that there are two types of women - Those who are currently in discomfort and those who are actively seeking it.
The theory was supported by the fact that women often like sad films: "If tears are shooting out of my eyes, I take that as a sure sign that I'm having a bad time. But a woman can watch a depressing movie, cry a river, and come away thinking shes had a really good time. She might even buy the book so she can feel bad again later."
That theory fits rather well with women rejecting nice, considerate guys to be with abusive ones. I still feel there's something deeper to it though.

A more scientifically acceptable theory (that is, in compliance with what I have heard of psychology), is that because most youths have rebellious instincts, most girls will go for the guys that their hopefully-experienced parents warn them against the most, which will be the 'jerks'. Since this is also the phase in their life in which their sexuality usually develops, they are likely to keep to this ideal.

Of course, it could simply be because jerks try more often and with a greater variety of people, because they're not really bothered who they get as long as she will have sex with them.
Or it could be the power of positive thinking, with a jerk believing that any woman should fall all over him regardless of how he treats her, and a nice guy wondering whether he's good enough.

Common toxxin. In hearts of hearts you know that one day or another, your gonna meet some lady that youre going to WANT to put on a pedestal. On the other hand I have had a rather long spell so...Still i'm stubbon. Damn it if im going to have to act a bit like a jerk to get a woman.I could try charm but it feels so fake. Besides which I doubt any the girls are going to be looking for anything more than sex this weekend so I might as well let the jerkier men have their fun.I can still get up in the morning and look at myself in the mirror and like myself. And thats more than many guys I know can do. Unfortunatly That is not the pressing problem. the pressing problem is "what kind of London underground theme costume am I going to wear" Tricky stuff. Still nice to see other people are getting in on the post.The prervious one was preety good. But we do really need to have more womens opinions.

i got told in rather blunt terms by a close female friend of mine, that i put every girl i like on a pedestal and therefore believe, in myself, that i can't ever be good enough for them. she then said they see it and abuse that fact to some extent and it makes her mad for her to keep seeing that happening to me......i forgot what my point was going to be

Er that it makes women feel edgy about a guy who treats her lke a goddess rather than like a human being. yEah I've read that too somewhere. Still better to be treated like a goddess, rather than trash right? About the costume. I have four hours to find suff themed with a London underground. Any ideas?

no, that definately wasn't it.........?

I was put on a pedestal thingy by an ex and it wasn't any fun, cause all my bodily functions had to be done in private. Now with my nice guy, we have burping competitions and enjoy grossing each other out with various smells and noises! Maybe that was too much info, but pedestals may seem nice to start with but it doesn't get you a real woman.

Burping competitions? You sound unnervingly like my female flatmate in my final year at uni. She used to burp amorously at her boyfriend (amongst other things...) Oh what would I give to have a girl to burp to!

...Although I suspect that most girls would NOT like a boyfriend that burps at them all the time.Still it might be fun and the subject of a diffrerent more lighthearted discussion, although its appeal may be limited.

We find that drinking Hoegarden is a great precursor, its always guarentees a burp or 10. Funnily enough so does champagne, think of all those posh birds at posh dos, trying to burp silently!

i never ever would have thought of it like that maybe a manners overhaul is due

Oh it drive me nuts when every burp has to be done as loudly as possible and with actions! But it has helped me to lighten up. I would rather have have my man drive me nuts every now and again with his burping, then not have him at all, and it gives me an excuse to tickle him in revenge. And anytime I want to, I just drink a hoegarden and outburp him, cause I am the best!

Hoegarden? Cool. I love the white beer, although Th last time I had Hoegarden I was in verona and drinking it from a litre tankard. As for champagne...Bahh...French wine and it smells like menure...Much prefer Asti Martini. By the way guys if you want to impress a lady or get a guys taste buds going might I suggest a little known italian wine called bardolino. Very rarely seen in Britain. Tastes nice and fruity gets you battered if needed and makes you sleep well with only the mildest of hangovers!

so in essence, us nice guys have to mean it up a little but in a nice way. women don't want the soppyness really, that's just an idealic DREAM that would be nice for a few days. ascertive and gentle is the way forward. a nice guy may finish last, but at least he will finish happy kinda thing.

Ticling a guy in revenge? I ticked my last girlfriend when she was angry with me for a trivial reason. I convered her in in a blanket and tickled her from head to foot until she begged me to stop. Then we made love. and it was the best "let be buddies again session" ever. I heartily recommend it. Its better than arguing and resolves the matter more quickly. Never heard of a girl ticling a guy in revenge though.

'a nice guy may finish last, but at least he will finish happy kinda thing.'

yes, and the jerks will finish up alone and bitter!!

tickling a guy in revenge is great if he hates being tickled!

they may not finish alone and bitter, but they will finish empty.

True, so be the nice guy!

i like to think i already am