A Conversation for LIL'S ATELIER

The Backroom Chat About American Politics (4) - Economic Hard Times Edition

Post 261

Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence

A thin skin is a liability in politics.


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Post 262

FG

Nah, she's not gone for good. No one with that much ambition is going to retire from politics.


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Post 263

Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence

Would our New Jersey residents (I'm lookin' at YOU, Witty and d'E) like to comment on the 40-odd arrests that took place this week, netting several mayors, state officials and rabbis and involving bribery, corruption and the illegal sale of human organs?

Is New Joisey a great place or what? smiley - silly


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Post 264

Witty Moniker

It seems to be a given that publicly elected officials here earn a substantial bonus income to look the other way so the illegal activities can continue unabated, I think they consider it a perk. The mayor of my municipality was in the last major sweep, plead guilty to what is probably a tiny portion of his true bribery take and served 18 months in federal prison. The prosecutor in that sweep was Chris Christy, who is now the current Republican candidate for governor. He is attempting to out Jon Corzine, who is so dismal as governor he is having trouble finding a running mate for the newly created lieutenant governor position. Personally, I am pleased to see another major sweep only a few years after the prior one.

Incidentally, the stool pigeon in this is singing in an attempt to gain some consideration for the charges he is facing for a huge real estate and mortgage scam he was running in my area. He was arrested 2 years ago trying to cash a $25.2 million check at a bank drive through window, trying to cover another $25 million phony check he deposited at another bank. You've got to admit, he's got chutzpah! His father was one of the rabbis arrested this week.

Here is some local perspective for those interested in delving further:

http://www.app.com/article/99999999/SPECIAL/90723060&template=periodic&theme=FBIPROBE


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Post 265

FG

This is one of the craziest stories in recent days! Kidneys! You think this kind of thing only goes on in third world countries, or among poverty-stricken immigrants (not that that's okay, either) but among *rabbis*? In *New Jersey*? Insane!


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Post 266

Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence

With rabbis you'd expect a chopped-liver shop, wouldn't you?


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Post 267

FG



Whaddya I look like to ya'? A black market kidney?


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Post 268

dElaphant (and Zeppo his dog (and Gummo, Zeppos dog)) - Left my apostrophes at the BBC

smiley - groan To be fair, some of the rabbis are from New York.

NJ does have a terrible political corruption problem (the former mayor of New Brunswick, more recently a state senator, is also in jail courtesy of Chris Christy). But something strikes me as very odd about this particular sweep - I think the scope is terribly broad and the crimes unrelated to each other, enough that there might be problems when they prosecute.

Unfortunately, Chris Christy is as much a part of the NJ political system as everyone else. I get the same bad vibe from him that I got from James McGreevey when he was mayor of Woodbridge.
smiley - dog


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Post 269

FG

The McGreevey skeevy vibe?


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Post 270

Hypatia

Shatner reading Palin on the Tonight Show. Who says culture is dead. smiley - silly

http://www.popeater.com/television/article/william-shatner-sarah-palin/596519?icid=main|main|dl7|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popeater.com%2Ftelevision%2Farticle%2Fwilliam-shatner-sarah-palin%2F596519


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Post 271

Witty Moniker

From The New York Times:

Some Parents Oppose Obama School Speech

Conservative parents have accused the president of trying to indoctrinate their children with socialist ideas.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/04/us/04school.html

< sigh >


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Post 272

Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs)

It's really stupid. There's four schools in my area that are not showing the speech - Arlington, Mansfield, Aledo, and Eagle Mountain... I think there's another one, but I can't remember which one that is.

I think things are getting really crazy. Part of the problem is that we have a political party in this country that believes that God is on their side. This enables the members of that party to think that their way is the right way, and to achieve that goal, they're entitled to use any means necessary - including trampling on the civil rights of others. I'm getting sick and tired of it.


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Post 273

Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence

Things seem to be getting particularly crazy in Texas. I saw video of the gubernatorial candidates standing on the capitol steps screaming for secession to a crowd of several hundred. The one fellow was ranting about how much he hated the American flag. They were fringe, but they called themselves Republicans.


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Post 274

Hypatia

I lived in Texas long enough that nothing that comes out of Austin ever surprises me. *sigh* Which is not a blanket condemnation of Texas. I loved living in San Antonio and would still be there if life hadn't interfered. It's just that the politicians there are true nutters.


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Post 275

Santragenius V

"I wouldn’t let my next-door neighbor talk to my kid alone"

What??? smiley - yikessmiley - steamsmiley - cross

How's that kid ever going to be an independent person in an ever-more compplicated world? Oh smiley - erm of course that was never the idea in the first place....


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Post 276

Titania (gone for lunch)

I wouldn't trust some of those parents to talk to their *own* kids alone! Indoctrination indeed...


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Post 277

Witty Moniker

Here is the speech as prepared. I don't know if Obama deviated from it, I'm at work at the moment.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/images/09/07/obama.school.speech.pdf


Scary stuff, huh?

Not.


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Post 278

Hypatia

Can't have kids hearing stuff like this. smiley - rolleyes

It's sad that Republicans are so full of hate that they'll take something as upbeat and encouraging as this and try to turn it into something evil.


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Post 279

Mrs Zen

On a different note - I don't now if any of the Californians here would find this interesting:

http://www.recovery.ca.gov/HTML/RecoveryImpact/map.shtml

Ben


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Spaceechik, Typomancer

Thanks, Ben -- that's very interesting. I notice that LA again got the lion's share. Economically, it's the tail that wags the dog here. Even Silicon Valley doesn't have as large an economy. Most of it is going to education; no surprise there.


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