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Asmodai Dark (The Eternal Builder, servant of Howard, Crom, and Beans) Posted May 14, 2004
Macedonia was always seen as one of the lesser states (iirc) until Phillip decided to get it into gear.
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Asmodai Dark (The Eternal Builder, servant of Howard, Crom, and Beans) Posted May 15, 2004
Done the grammatical changes, anything else need doing?
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Bistroist Posted May 17, 2004
Gnomon's right of course that it's a bit of an anachronism to refer to Greece as a political whole at this point in history. It wasn't a country, agreed, but there were some similarities throughout Greece regarding race, culture, and language.
While the Macedonians did speek a form of Greek, it sounded so strange and foreign to other Greeks that they occassionally referred to the M. as barbarians.
Anyway, my main point wasn't about Macedonia being Greek, I can see your reasons for including it, though I wouldn't myself. My main issue was with calling Macedonia a city state, which I'm fairly sure it wasn't.
cheers
~Bistro
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted May 17, 2004
Remove the header "Introduction". Every h2g2 entry starts with an introduction, so there is no need for this header.
Your GuideML is non-standard, so it needs a bit of tidying up.
1. Use Headers rather than Subheaders.
2. Put and around paragraphs, rather than using at the end of paragraphs.
A2559981 - The Phalanx - its history and its users.
Asmodai Dark (The Eternal Builder, servant of Howard, Crom, and Beans) Posted May 17, 2004
A2559981 - The Phalanx - its history and its users.
Asmodai Dark (The Eternal Builder, servant of Howard, Crom, and Beans) Posted Jun 13, 2004
Too any scout that sees this:
This article has been in for three weeks, and i cant finish two other articles unless it goes through because they referance the phallanx. This has caused me immense frustration, because ive seen many others go through peer reveiw a hell of a lot quicker.
A2559981 - The Phalanx - its history and its users.
RFJS__ - trying to write an unreadable book, finding proofreading tricky Posted Jun 13, 2004
Good luck.
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JustAnotherNumber\Lord High Praetor of Thingite-ica\Sub Posted Jun 14, 2004
Well, it looks pretty much done to me...
The only things I saw while reading: 'Libyian' in 2nd paragraph of Post-Macedonia; '...realm right upto the borders of India.' obviously, 'up to'.
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Secretly Not Here Any More Posted Jun 14, 2004
"Right up to more recent historical events such as the Battle of Waterloo, regiments of soldiers armed with long thrusting weapons called Pikes saw limited use against cavalry and mounted formations, but these formations bore little resemblance to the phalanx."
Check http://www.napoleonguide.com/weapinf.htm
The only pike armed troops in the Napoleonic wars were Sergeants, who would use them to defend the standards from enemy cavalry. As far as regiments go, there were only 4 types of armament; Muskets for the vast proportion of infantry, Rifles for a few elite British regiments, swords for cavalry brigades, and the cannons of the artillery regiments. I'd double check the sources for any 'regiments' or even single companies armed with pikes. Pikes were never deployed in great numbers as the forming of 'squares' with bayonets fixed would drive away cavalry. Pikes were only given to single men in each formation, as far as I can see.
I'd be skeptical about "regiments of soldiers armed with long thrusting weapons called Pikes" at Waterloo (or even in the Penninsular wars) until you can show me a source.
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Asmodai Dark (The Eternal Builder, servant of Howard, Crom, and Beans) Posted Jun 14, 2004
See i wasnt too sure about that, but there were people who wanted referances to later battles so i picked out water loo. Having seen this, ill revert it to the english civil war, were pike units were deployed
A2559981 - The Phalanx - its history and its users.
Secretly Not Here Any More Posted Jun 14, 2004
That's more like it. You could say that by the time of waterloo they'd been relegated to symbols of rank...
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Asmodai Dark (The Eternal Builder, servant of Howard, Crom, and Beans) Posted Jun 14, 2004
you sure they had pikes though? seems a clunky weapon for an officer. Sure it wasnt a pole arm or a billhook?
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Secretly Not Here Any More Posted Jun 14, 2004
It was a thin pike, slightly thicker than a broomstick, with a brass 'arrowhead' on it, with a small crossbar under the actual head of the pike, from what I've seen in illustrations. More of a long spear than a pike really.
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Asmodai Dark (The Eternal Builder, servant of Howard, Crom, and Beans) Posted Jun 14, 2004
So it was just a simple pole arm then. Not worth mentioning really
Ill make the changes sometime tonight
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Asmodai Dark (The Eternal Builder, servant of Howard, Crom, and Beans) Posted Jun 17, 2004
Done
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Secretly Not Here Any More Posted Jun 17, 2004
Excellente. *runs to check*
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U168592 Posted Jun 18, 2004
I've seen this Entry here for quite some time and it's gone from good, to better, to excellent. However one thing lets it down IMHO. The title. It sounds clumsy. How about something like "The Phalanx - A history." or " The Phalanx - Genius of Warfare" or even just "The Phalanx - An overview." Or you could leave it the way it was, seems sometimes a little too much suggestion can ruin a piece of work. Too many cooks some might say...Hope it gets recommended soon so we can see the other Entries you mentioned A.
PGHF
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Asmodai Dark (The Eternal Builder, servant of Howard, Crom, and Beans) Posted Jun 18, 2004
Can really do them until i get this through, i need to link it
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Secretly Not Here Any More Posted Jun 30, 2004
I think you can actually link to an entry in PR as long as it looks like it'll make the edited guide pretty soon. SO you should be ok linking to this if you want to start your other entries. Can't see this staying here very much longer.
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