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Icy North Started conversation May 3, 2011
The newspapers are full of stories about projects going wrong. Remember the new Wembley stadium? It was delivered many years late and way over budget. Numerous government IT projects have also failed at great expense to the taxpayer.
Yet, is it really all that difficult? All a project manager needs to do is work out all all the tasks involved, find all the resources he needs to do them and then plot them on his trusty Gantt chart, or maybe type them into Microsoft Project, and he's away.
Yet, there is one thing which can always go wrong, no matter how meticulous he is.
What?
[one klaxon available]
QI - Project Planning
Icy North Posted May 3, 2011
Oh, he can plan it on his wall chart - he doesn't need a computer.
And even if he did, he could use a UPS power supply with a backup generator.
No, nothing to do with power.
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Superfrenchie Posted May 3, 2011
Ah, drat, I was aiming for the quickest klaxon ever...
Of course, he might die before it's completed, or even before thte planning is completed. If his paperboard falls on top of him or something.
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Icy North Posted May 3, 2011
While not the answer I was looking for, that's exactly the kind of out-of-the-box thinking we need, TB
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted May 3, 2011
Sudden and highly-specific subsidence.
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MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Posted May 3, 2011
Going bankrupt. Or the company who funded the project going bankrupt.
The project getting shelved due to lack of funds.
Being gazumped.
Getting sacked.
Time constraints.
I'm thinking along the lines of your comparison - The building industry, or is it any 'project manager'?
MMF
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Icy North Posted May 3, 2011
Any project, really.
I'm actually looking at the planning stage, here. Of course things can conspire against you during the project, but let's assume our project manager is very diligent and knows how long every task will take and what resources he needs.
What could go wrong with the plan?
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Icy North Posted May 3, 2011
No idea why the subject line changed there - it isn't a clue! Just putting it back...
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Taff Agent of kaos Posted May 3, 2011
the millenium stadium came in on buget
when the contract was negotiated the price was fixed and clauses inserted that the developer would fund any overspend, funnily enough the construction was so tightly controled that it didn't cost any thing more and there was no overspend
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Icy North Posted May 4, 2011
Well, it was only 3/4 complete in time for the rugby world cup final, but nobody seemed to mind at the time
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pebblederook-The old guy wearing surfer beads- what does he think he looks like? Posted May 4, 2011
I spent many wasted years on this very stuff and no large project I was ever involved with ended up anything like what was originally planned. I think it is popularily known as 'project creep' or to project managers as 'bl###y users'.
By the by, it was once brought to my attention that only two 'industries' call their customers 'users'.
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Geggs Posted May 4, 2011
I remember watching something on TV several years back that, on reflection, may have been an edition of Radio 4's The News Quiz filmed at the Edinburgh festival. When it came to the teams presenting their clippings at the end, Arthur Smith presented a whole magazine, which, he said, represented a much more relax view to drug addiction north of the border, in that the whole sub-culture had a magazine devoted to it. He then held up a copy of ...
...
... Mac User.
Geggs
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gandalfstwin OGGMSTKMBGSUIKWIATA Posted May 4, 2011
Murphy he say......
'If anything can go wrong, it will do'
and...
'Even if it is guaranteed not to, it will do anyway'
also, 'When things go wrong, they do so in a manner to either cause the most added expenditure, the most embarassment, or a combination of the two'
GT
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Icy North Posted May 4, 2011
All good points, but I'm looking for something which can affect your project even before it starts.
If it helps, consider what you do when you plan. You schedule all your tasks so that the project delivers its results as quickly as possible...
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- 8: Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. (May 3, 2011)
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