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Peer Review: A2131057 - Cargo Cults
MotDoc, Temporarily Exiled to Tartu, Estonia Started conversation Jan 21, 2004
Entry: Cargo Cults - A2131057
Author: MotDoc, Head of the Holy Order of the Knights of the Angered Smiley <grr> - U208372
A collaberation between myself and F/b. Good stuff.
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Bistroist Posted Jan 21, 2004
Like it
Very minor nitpicking stuff: Could you maybe use a few more paragraphs? Especially in the first few sections. And some space around the s would be nice, too.
cheers
~Bistro
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frenchbean Posted Jan 21, 2004
Hi MotDoc
Good job!
It runs much better now and the whole thing hangs together really well
A few typos of course
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I agree with Bistroist about more gaps, but that's a minor thing really, that a sub-ed can pick up. Got to give them something to do, after all
F/b
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Z Posted Jan 22, 2004
Whilst I appreciate all the points I just wanted to say that this is a fantastic entry
Abserloutly fascinating..
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Jan 22, 2004
This is a cracking entry, MotDoc.
There's a small typo needing fixing.
'In preperation for his' > In preparation ...
I'm not clear where cargo cults are now and whether Yali is still alive. Do cargo cults still flourish? From their persistence and evolution, I would suspect the answer is yes.
As it stands at the moment, the entry seems to fizzle out. Perhaps the last subject heading should be 'Cargo Cults today' or something similar.
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frenchbean Posted Jan 23, 2004
Hi ZSF
The John Frum cult is certainly still going - have a look at the great link to John Frum Day.
They're all in Melanesia - S Pacific - but started in PNG, which I think MotDoc said in the first couple of paragraphs.
F/b
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MotDoc, Temporarily Exiled to Tartu, Estonia Posted Jan 23, 2004
Although pretty much all other cults in PNG are stamped out, Yali's is still alive and well. I have been unable to establish whether or not Yali is still alive, but apparantly his son has siezed power as governor of Madang and is disrupting the lives of all non-native residents.
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John the gardener says, "Free Tibet!" Posted Jan 24, 2004
This is really fascinating, and quite new to me. I'd never heard of Cargo Cults. Well done MotDoc and Frenchbean!
The only suggestion I have is that the paragraph breaks could be improved around the headers, as has been mentioned earlier.
Many of the people where I live also seem to be devoted to cargo; which, strangely enough, all now seems to originate in China. A number of ambitious colleagues apparently believe that the key to advancing their careers is a devoted worship of Anus.
JTG
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Jan 24, 2004
I had heard of Cargo Cults previously, however without any detail. All I remember is that people would make decoy aeroplanes out of bamboo to entice real ones to land.
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Researcher 524695 Posted Jan 25, 2004
Absolutely fascinating, a rivetting entry, well written, entertaining, hyperbole hyperbole hyperbole, sorry, this is one of the most interesting things I've read in ages, really. I'd vaguely heard the phrase "cargo cult" before, but never known it referred to something so complex or so old - I'd thought it dated only from WWII.
What an eye opener.
Another reason why anyone attempting to cross a border with the word "missionary" on their passport should be dragged away and shot...
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amusedO Posted Jan 25, 2004
I really enjoyed reading this article as I found it informative and interesting. I also rather liked the way the political edicts the backdrop of religion throughout.
Amused0
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MotDoc, Temporarily Exiled to Tartu, Estonia Posted Jan 26, 2004
Look F/b...rave reviews!
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frenchbean Posted Jan 26, 2004
I know MotDoc
Mind you, it's 80% rave reviews for you alone: I didn't do much really. Well done you!
F/b
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FordsTowel Posted Jan 27, 2004
Hi there MotDoc & Frenchbean!
I think that you two have chosen and excellent topic for an entry. There may be just a bit more research you will have to do, however.
While the cargo cults may have become more popular "almost immediately after the arrival of the 18th century Russian explorer Miklouho-Maclay", this is not there actual origin.
The cargo cults began, much earlier, based on the local beliefs that ancestors (when they died) went to a better place, a place of bounty; and, would someday return bearing cargo of wealth and goodies.
The original belief was that canoes full of ancestors and cargo would bring prosperity.
This belief system was so ingrained that every time a new people reached their shores, they assumed that these were their ancestors in a somehow evolved form. The canoes (ships) were so large and impressive that it made them seem all the more god-like. It eventually grew to include aircraft, the ultimate magical canoe.
You can read about these beginnings in "Cows, Pigs, War, and Witches", which wonderfully covers a myriad of sociological phenomenon about how belief systems are formed and evolve.
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Peer Review: A2131057 - Cargo Cults
- 1: MotDoc, Temporarily Exiled to Tartu, Estonia (Jan 21, 2004)
- 2: McKay The Disorganised (Jan 21, 2004)
- 3: Bistroist (Jan 21, 2004)
- 4: Pimms (Jan 21, 2004)
- 5: frenchbean (Jan 21, 2004)
- 6: Z (Jan 22, 2004)
- 7: MotDoc, Temporarily Exiled to Tartu, Estonia (Jan 22, 2004)
- 8: Bistroist (Jan 22, 2004)
- 9: Zarquon's Singing Fish! (Jan 22, 2004)
- 10: frenchbean (Jan 22, 2004)
- 11: Zarquon's Singing Fish! (Jan 22, 2004)
- 12: frenchbean (Jan 23, 2004)
- 13: MotDoc, Temporarily Exiled to Tartu, Estonia (Jan 23, 2004)
- 14: John the gardener says, "Free Tibet!" (Jan 24, 2004)
- 15: Zarquon's Singing Fish! (Jan 24, 2004)
- 16: Researcher 524695 (Jan 25, 2004)
- 17: amusedO (Jan 25, 2004)
- 18: MotDoc, Temporarily Exiled to Tartu, Estonia (Jan 26, 2004)
- 19: frenchbean (Jan 26, 2004)
- 20: FordsTowel (Jan 27, 2004)
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