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SEF Posted Aug 26, 2003
Jodan, you're still not getting the big picture though. You're getting the narrow selfish one. They came for Symphony and all you could say was that you didn't care and that it was just one snowflake - somehow thinking that makes the other snowflakes, or specifically yourself, immune. Perhaps you *are* an underline or you merely think you are. For the rest of the obvious analogy into which you just walked, I think I'm going to have to refer you to ww2 or, more precisely, the capitalised version: WWII.
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J Posted Aug 26, 2003
Once again, you miss the point SEF. My point was that this is being blown out of proportion- you're implying that I don't think this is a real problem. I do, just not to the point of arguing the obvious.
By the way, I haven't done anything wrong, and have only broken the house rules a couple of times, so no I don't think I'll be banned.
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SEF Posted Aug 26, 2003
Once again you don't have a point, Jodan. You never did. You came onto threads specifically aimed at people who *do* care (in either direction) and stated that you didn't care. Not content with stating it once, you repeated it as if it would somehow silence those who did care. If you genuinely didn't care you wouldn't be posting here at all.
The trouble is that you do care, but about something entirely different - preserving your fluffy bunny myth of h2g2 rather than exposing the stark reality of the way it is currently being run and getting the bad attitudes of the staff fixed so the site can be better than a sham. You are no more convincing than Blues Shark was in the FB camcorder thread.
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J Posted Aug 26, 2003
No, I am not 'aimed' at anyone.
I do care about the outcome, somwhat. I don't care about the pointless arguments. If it's fluffy bunny to me, it's fluffy bunny to me SEF. There is no conspiracy behind a website, it's all about perception and I'm completely happy with it.
I don't see anything, I can't help expose it.
Good luck being unhappy. Ignorance is bliss I guess
- fluffy wool
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SEF Posted Aug 26, 2003
The threads were aimed at people who care, Jodan, not you (ie you weren't aimed and you don't care, allegedly).
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Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs) Posted Aug 27, 2003
> I don't personally much like the idea that some paranoid snitch can go to the Italics and say "so-and-so sounds a bit like LeKZ", and that on that basis and little else an account can be quietly shut down and a blameless individual denied access to this publicly funded site without fanfare, explanation or evidence. It does't reflect well on the snitch, and it doesn't reflect well on the staff that pander to them and ignore their own procedures to do so.
Hear, hear.
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Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs) Posted Aug 27, 2003
Hoovooloon, how's it hanging? Just some comments on your post...
> First of all, it's not arrogant, it's based on observation of past behaviour.
Hm... I don't want to get too personal about her motives, because I haven't corresponded with her in a long time. But - based upon my observation of her past behavior, almost every time LeKZ created a new account and broke the rules, it was to it was to help somebody else who had posted on this site with a problem. Wallflowergirl (Girl) was the only account that was meant to be 'fluffy.' I don't think that the Blonde accounts were created by LeKZ, and I have my own opinions about Quincy and Satyagraha. (Check the first post made by Quincy, and make up your own minds.)
Symphony has not, as far as I can tell, contributed to any discussions having to do with abuse, post-traumatic stress syndrome, or multiple personalities. Her only crime was choosing a musical moniker, and posting as a multiple personality. Oh, and being friends with Barton, LeKZ, Ø, and Amy - which last time I heard, wasn't a crime. They're good people.
When I say 'arrogant,' what I mean is the notion that LeKZ would create a new username 'just to cause trouble' and disrupt the normal functioning of this site. Especially when you consider the effort that would be required to masquerade as a UK user. I'll take your word on a hacker being able to change the IP address (I presume an accomplished hacker can bounce it off of a server in the UK) but you have to consider that LeKZ has never bothered to be that subtle before. If she were capable of doing that, don't you think she would have done it for the other accounts?
> But saying it's unreasonable to assume it might be is simply inaccurate, I'm afraid - and that's not Symphony's fault.
I feel that it was unreasonable to assume that Symphony was a alter ego of LeKZ. Especially with the IP address, the lack of postings, and the difference in writing styles. It makes the whole mess feel very much like a witch-hunt. Symphony doesn't deserve this, and neither does LeKZ.
That's just my . I know you're in favor of Symphony being reinstated, so really we're arguing at cross-purposes. This whole debacle aggravates me.
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DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist) Posted Aug 27, 2003
*sigh*
I don't know wether to be slightly agrivated more at the italics or SEF, could someone explain resolution for me?
-- DoctorMO --
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HappyDude Posted Aug 27, 2003
I am posting to make a point (and I am afraid not a helpful one) about the validity of one element that has been put forward in evidence. I am sitting in London UK making this post, but my PC is connected via an SSL (secure encrypted link) to a PC in the USA and the post will be sent from that machine. Any trace of the IP would lead back to that machine in the USA not me in London UK. I would not normally go to such trouble to hide my true IP from the BBC but by doing while making this post I feel I'm making a point about the validity of one the elements that has been put forward in evidence.
NB I trust Amy P on this one, and if she says they are not the same person & she has spoken to both that is good enough for me.
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Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted Aug 27, 2003
Hmmm nopw that the Italics have acknowledged that they are looking into this issue I wonder how lond it will be before they make a public statement?
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DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist) Posted Aug 27, 2003
Could be years.
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Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs) Posted Aug 29, 2003
I don't know. The italics have said they're looking into the matter further. I just feel bad for Symphony! This sucks.
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Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted Aug 29, 2003
Indeed it does, however by our sit in protest they have been forced to at least comment, I think if we keep the heat up then we might get some positive resolution.
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Tube - the being being back for the time being Posted Aug 29, 2003
There will most certainly be a reaction.
Whether that is a resolution or indeed a positive one (for whom?) is, IMO, doubtful.
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Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted Aug 29, 2003
Well hopefuly for Symphony
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DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist) Posted Aug 30, 2003
indeed. bout time a resultion was forth coming.
-- DoctorMO --
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Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs) Posted Aug 30, 2003
They're probably mulling, and we'll hear about it after the weekend.
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SEF Posted Aug 30, 2003
It's been over a week since they received the emailed proof from Symphony. It has been many more weeks that they failed to reply to the request for what sort of proof was required. What sort of spices or herbs are they using in their mulling - papaver somniferum or solanum nigrum?
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Hoovooloo Posted Aug 30, 2003
" bout time a resultion was forth coming."
There's been resolution. Symphony's banned. What makes anyone here think that is going to change?
The staff are obviously now ignoring their own declared procedures and have reverted to "the Editor's decision is final and no correspondence will be entered into". The only mistake they've made is in actually entering into a correspondence.
Does anyone, anyone at all, believe for even a second that anyone is "mulling" anything?
Wake up. She banned, for good. Give up. Trust me on this one.
H.
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