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Jerry Springer The Opera.

Post 401

David B - Singing Librarian Owl

I considered e-mailing Christian Voice and trying to explain my objections to their objections, but as my last e-mail went unanswered, I don't think I shall bother.

I am an evangelical Christian and I can cope with, and even enjoy, a production which supposedly

"portrays Jesus as an coprophiliac with an infantile complex who admits to being homosexual and who is told "F*** you" by Satan and "Jesus, grow up for Chr***'s sake and put some f***ing clothes on" by Jerry Springer. Almighty God is put across as an old fool who needs therapy, Mary the mother of Jesus is told she was 'raped by an angel' while the character of Jerry Springer himself emerges as the true saviour of mankind." (from the CV press release)

because it's all in a dream sequence! In context (which is a concept they probably haven't heard of, which is worrying, since it's so important when studying the Bible...), all of these problematic things are quite explicitly and obviously taking place in Jerry Springer's fevered imagination. Therefore sentences like 'Jerry imagines himself as the true saviour of mankind' would be more appropriate. In terms of theatre, CV has probably never been to anything more challenging than an all-star pantomime starring the bloke from Gladiators and her off Coronation Street... Or at least that's the impression you get from his/their lack of comprehension of theatre.

David


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Post 402

azahar

Well, quite David. Most of the so-called 'objectionable' stuff was all in the dream sequence. And I agree with you that it should be seen as *that* and not necessarily anything against Christianity per se.

It's so refreshing to meet a Christian with a sense of humour on h2g2 - I know plenty in RL but sometimes here they tend to be very defensive and quite humourless.

As a piece of theatre I actually found that the JS Opera dragged a lot in places, and I didn't enjoy a lot of the music, but it was fun and innovative and a bit challenging. And a few times I laughed out loud - the KKK dance, for example.

The very idea that this piece of theatre should be banned is just beyond the beyond, you know?


az


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Post 403

Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master

Well it is on in Plymouth so I am pretty tempted to go. Just in the hope that the more of a success it is the more it will annoy Green and his ilk....


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Post 404

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

I definately want a ticket. (I wonder if we'll get picketed on the way in? smiley - biggrin)


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Post 405

David B - Singing Librarian Owl

If it comes to Canterbury, I'd be quite tempted to picket the picketers. smiley - evilgrin Maybe with a 'Christians have a sense of humour!' banner or some such. smiley - winkeye


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Post 406

Alfster



And on the back of it: 'But maybe not looking at you lot.'smiley - laugh


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Post 407

Alfster

I do hope people go dressed in fancy dress. Go as Jesus in his Kaftan and sand-shoes and as you walk past the pickets whip it off to reveal a fetching neat nappy arrangement beneath. With a T-Shirt saying 'Talk to The Stigmata'...or is that going too far?


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Post 408

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

STEPHEN GREEN IS ON BBC1 QUESTIONTIME RIGHT NOW!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/question_time/

smiley - devil


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Post 409

Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista)

And why would we want to know this? smiley - ermsmiley - tongueout


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Post 410

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

oh only becasue the entire panel and audience are rounding on him and every question that's tossed his way he answers with a quote from the bible.

smiley - laugh


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Post 411

David B - Singing Librarian Owl

Oh bother. If I'd have known, I'd have watched it in order to work out if I have any similarities with him *at all*. I suspect that the similarities are:

1 - I am male. He is male.
2 - We both call ourselves Christians.
3 - ... smiley - ermsmiley - whistle That's probably it.


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Post 412

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

ah but the BBC will stream the show for you on the link I provided above for the forthcoming week until the next programme airs, because they are nice like that. smiley - smiley


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Post 413

David B - Singing Librarian Owl

Ooh, I didn't realise that TV was streaming as well now. The listen again thingy for the radio is excellent, so this is welcome news. Even though they've probably been doing it for years...


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Post 414

Alfster

@rse! I did not realise he was on.

ANyone willing to give a review of what happened?


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Post 415

Alfster

The usual place for Christian Voice stuff (if only it would contract throat cancer):

http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/Press/press011.html

Basically, Mr Green is going to report all Muslim book shops who sell the Koran because now that " Now Muslim leaders have woken up to the fact that the Qu'ran contains enough incitement to kill Jews, Christians and unbelievers to land them in court and they have asked to Government to exempt it. The Government have so far refused to accommodate them." Why should 'they' have special treatment over good God-fearing Christians like gay-hating Green.


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Post 416

Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master

Damn.

I wish I saw him making a fool out of himself on question time.


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Post 417

David B - Singing Librarian Owl

Ooh, I wonder if he'll report libraries as well. The smiley - drumroll Library of Doom (where I work) has several copies of the Qu'ran/Koran, some in English translation and some of the proper original. These are kept, as Islamic practice dictates, on the highest shelf - we even ignore Dewey Decimal to allow for this. Each time I pass, I check to see that they're in the right place.

Does that mean that all the lbrarians are (according to Mr Green and his imaginary friends at Christian Voice) inciting religious hatred? I'm sure my church pastor would be most surprised to learn this!

David


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Post 418

Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista)

A-ha. I see the hidden agenda now. Islam has *got* to be anti-technology, because if there is ever an Islamic space programme they'll have zero-G environments, and the term "Top shelf" will become meaningless, thus subverting the whole world-view and causing disaster to rain down. (Except in those circumstances that would be meaningless as there's no "down"...) smiley - sillysmiley - scientist


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Post 419

David B - Singing Librarian Owl

smiley - laugh


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Post 420

Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4507636.stm

So Sainsburys is not stocking the DVD due to complaints.

I for one am going to be writing to my local Sainsburys stating that if they give into fundamentalists then I will permanantly transfer my business to Tescos.

We should start an anti- the anti-JSTO campaign smiley - winkeye


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