A Conversation for Music
TowelMaster Started conversation Oct 2, 2000
I saw this button and it says 'Discuss' so...
What is music ? It is indeed different for everyone of us.
In my opinion, music is the most elementary form of expressing one's emotions. You may cry when you see a painting or when you read a novel, but it will not be as direct as musical emotion.
Also, so far I have hardly ever heard anyone say : 'I can't read that book because it makes me think of so and so'. OTOH, it has happened many times that I heard someone say : 'I can't listen to that piece of music, it makes me too sad'(or the other way around of course).
So, to me, music = emotion. No emotion = no music. Now you also know why I detest things like Boney ***, Kylie M. etc. .
Pat La Mouche Posted Nov 24, 2000
Right on, you're a musiclover allright.
But even if you don't like stuff like Kylie or Boney M (f**k, I don't care for those either...) or innumerably many others, it still is music.
In fact there are only TWO (2) categories of music, and they are very personal and subjective and differ from person to person: there is music one likes and music one doesn't like. So all one has to do is listen to a piece of music, and afterwards one can decide in which category to put it... The strange thing is that no matter in which category one puts a piece of music, it is never final... One can always change a piece of music from one category to the other, and back, and so on...
EddJC Posted Aug 6, 2002
you think? so everytime you feel something, music suddenly appears - must be dissonant...
BobTheFarmer Posted Sep 4, 2002
Towel Master, you have said exactly the same thing I have said for ages...
No emotion=No soul=No music.
My phrase for manufactured pop and annoying 'novelty' rap. (read eminem) is 'Musical Entertainment' Because it doesnt make you FEEL.
EddJC Posted Sep 12, 2002
so, what you are saying is that the other day when I found myself crying to the sound of Ben Fold Five's "Brick" it wasn't real emotion?
you have no idea what music is do you?
BobTheFarmer Posted Sep 13, 2002
I have no idea whta ben folds five are like, but if it made you feel then it is music. Im guessing they are a band that write their own materiel, Im not entirely sure where you're going with this?
EddJC Posted Nov 12, 2002
Music is a collection of sounds and/or silences. It has nothing to do with emotion - that it evokes emotion is entirely incidental. The difference between noise and music is entirely down to the audience, so although you could in effect say that music is _ordered_ sound/silence, one may still listen to say, birdsong or random background noise and still declare that it is music they are hearing - that is because they are ordering the timespace for which they are listening to the sounds, and their brains are filtering the sounds accordingly.
Also - if you say no emotion=no music, then I assume you mean that distaste, angriness and dislike are not emotions. If you hear something and you're angry because it's not the stuff you like, or it doesn't evoke the "emotions" that say classical music evokes, then if anything, that music has still evoked an emotion in you - that of angrines and distaste. If you think John Cage's "4'33"" is rubbish - then you have reacted to it, which is precisely what John Cage wanted you to do - hence it is music.
Music in a conventional sense is about structure - especially classical, or "art" music, which is built round the beauty of structure and the tensions invoked by tonality or not in the case of atonality. Composers do not write to express "emotion" except inthe most basic of literary ways i.e. setting words.
Edd (Music Student)
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