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Thirty Years Ago I Said This Would Happen...
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Started conversation May 7, 2010
...well, I did.
Back when I was a young and innocent cub, I went to my American dentist for a checkup before venturing overseas. This excellent man, whose ancestors came from the Yiddish-speaking part of Romania, advised me, 'You've got wisdom teeth coming in. They'll be okay if they don't crowd your mouth.' Fatal remark.
I then emigrated to Germany, where, a year later, I was sitting in a chair having my impacted wisdom tooth yanked by an insane Münchner armed with a pair of pliers and - I regret to say, as he was of a certain age - ideas influenced by Darwin's regrettable cousin Francis Galton.
He broke the tooth (the dentist, not Francis Galton). Why will become apparent shortly. Holding out the offending pieces, he demanded: 'What was this doing in your mouth?'
In other words, I interpreted through the blinding pain, 'None of MY ancestors was sleeping around with other species.'
I had a fused molar.
Now, the only people I had ever heard of with fused molars were Neanderthals. I therefore assumed I had Neanderthal ancestor - and so did my dentist, who as I said, probably harboured Unfortunate Ideas. I, on the other hand, thought it was Cool.
Painful, but definitely cool.
Now, I'm always ahead of my time with such notions, and for 30 years people have been telling me I'm nuts. Okay, I am, but that doesn't mean we don't have Neanderthal genes. Some of us, at least.
Now take a look at this:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100506/ap_on_sc/us_sci_neanderthal_genes;_ylt=AlLmkDKW_sy0MPzFPh3nmxgPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTJwM3Rscm40BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwNTA2L3VzX3NjaV9uZWFuZGVydGhhbF9nZW5lcwRjcG9zAzEEcG9zAzIEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDeW91cmVhbmVhbmRl
Aha. Told you so!!!
Isaac Asimov once said, 'The nice thing about advances in scientific knowledge is that they make people stop saying, "There goes Asimov, the nut," and start saying, "There goes Asimov, the clear-eyed seeker of truth."'
Yeah. Like that. It's called vindication.
We should notice that so far, it looks like only Europeans and Asians are related to Neanderthals. And that somebody's already figured out that somebody, somewhere, will try to make a Big Deal out of that. Phooey. I've read William Golding's 'The Inheritors', and I believe those Neanderthals were lovely people I'm proud to be related to. Besides, I'm Scotch Irish. We're not proud.
Oh, and I love the Wash U prof's remark about how people now have something better to worry about than who was sleeping with whom in the Pleistocene.
That München dentist ruined more than my evening. The damage he did aggravated my TMJ (temporal mandibular joint syndrome), causing back pain, skeletal misalignment, etc, and is probably responsible for my going from 'hey, you have strong teeth' to 'Aieee!' (the favourite remark of my excellent Philly dentist, who came from around Bombay). I have crowns now. I blame bad dentistry.
But I don't blame the Neanderthals.
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Hypatia Posted May 7, 2010
A documentary I saw a while back talked about the improving opinion of Neanderthals. Those scholars who are most in a position to know have a lot of respect for them. I would be proud to carry their genes. Not that I'll likely ever klnow whether I do or not, since I don't have any wisdom teeth to check.
What a painful experience. Ouch.
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Titania (gone for lunch) Posted May 7, 2010
I wonder if this might have something to do with me seeing a very Neanderthal looking cashier? First time I saw him was some years ago, and he did look just like one, I swear - flat and broad nose, receeding chin (almost non-existing), low and short forehead and very heavy eyebrows.
And yet, he was working for Systembolaget
http://www.systembolaget.se/Applikationer/Knappar/InEnglish/
where all the staff are very knowledgeable when it comes to which wine goes with which food and also don't need a calculator to figure out how much change to give back if you pay cash.
But it felt so unreal, seeing him, the perfect illustration - and live - of a Neanderthal.
Maybe it's not just teeth but also looks that will pop up once in a while?
Thirty Years Ago I Said This Would Happen...
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted May 7, 2010
You know, it might be. I'll bet Neanderthals were not heavy drinkers...but who knows? They might have had good taste...
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Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted May 7, 2010
I know i repeat myself, but I am sure the neanderthals were a nice bunch - compared to modern people
present company not included, of course
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Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted May 7, 2010
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Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted May 7, 2010
and you are right in doing so. i only question the quality of modern people. and only those who are not here
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted May 7, 2010
Quite right, too. Those who do not read h2g2 are obviously in need of civilising.
By the way, I was just checking something and found out one of my EG entries had been pinched wholesale and was reposted on Facebook. The nerve......
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Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. Posted May 8, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDgOjJ9Wtk4
loved this when it came out
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Malabarista - now with added pony Posted May 8, 2010
A lot of my classmates at my last school came from the next valley over, where the Neander River flows...
Thirty Years Ago I Said This Would Happen...
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted May 8, 2010
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Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. Posted May 8, 2010
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted May 8, 2010
At the bottom of this page:
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=100871544787&topic=10120
I'm not sure why they do this, but hey - it spreads the information.
I remember being excited when I saw the Neanderthal skull in Bonn. And then I visited Solingen...
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KB Posted May 8, 2010
I quite like the theory of how Homo sapiens overtook Neanderthals. According to that, Neanderthals had a olfactory sense many times better than Homo sapiens, and could hunt and find food much better. But H. sapiens started to keep dogs, which were even better at sniffing and snuffling, and more than made up for the disadvantage.
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Titania (gone for lunch) Posted May 8, 2010
At least that person on FB links back to the original article - I wonder why he appears to be collecting writings on cannibalism?
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- 1: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (May 7, 2010)
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- 4: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (May 7, 2010)
- 5: Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ (May 7, 2010)
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