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logicus tracticus philosophicus Posted Oct 5, 2003
Yes but i dont i have the right?.
Via (free speech)(open forums)(personal space)
I could also be pedantic and point out i did use punctuation
"graphics needs to be addressed,their will always"
as you can see a comma (this as i have been led to believe is called a punctuation mark)nb i will also point out i am aware of that wrong choice of spelling for several words
e:g
their/therefore/thereby/therein.
Am i also to be vilified for this in later posts?.
Did"you", not stop to consider that i might be handicapped?!,With some affliction ,that meant every word typed caused discomfort.
Or it could also be it is because when i was taught to write errors like that where not corrected.
And since written word is mostly an automated response,and likewise when we are in various moods our writeing style as it seen in our speech patterns are occasionly faster or slower than normal.
It may well be i suufer from a dyslexcic condition that prevents me from reconising a correct way of expressing or emphasiseing what i want the reader of my reply to focus on!.
Am i to be berated for not being as clear and consise as you would expect me to be.
If you must know my written work not only suffers from lack of puntuation i will change from upper case to lower case ,joined up to printed several times within the same line of whatever document .
However i will try and remember when replying to your posts to add a few spare puntuation marks and alternatives words.
i:e !!!""?::}{[] hear/here where/were
Feel free to ask for more should you need them.
oh
and
yes
there is a p.s
or "post scriptum"
(logicus, even Wittgenstein used punctuation.)amazeing how many times
this "Wittgenstein" person is used as a reference in your conversation threads.
I am aware it can be used as a insult or as flattery may i ask in what manner it was used?
For the recordsyou understand.
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Tango Posted Oct 5, 2003
You're overreacting. It was simply a comment that your post was hard to understand because of the lack of punctuation. It was not an insult, or a judgement, just a statement of confusion.
Tango
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logicus tracticus philosophicus Posted Oct 5, 2003
and i was replying to post 198 from
Subject: Atled volunteers
Posted 13 Hours Ago by Asteroid Lil, E.V. (weary of name-calling)
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Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence Posted Oct 5, 2003
Tango described my comment correctly, in that I found your previous post difficult to understand, logicus. It was a bit of a run-on sentence. If you have a handicap that prevents you from expressing yourself properly, I am very sorry to hear of it.
Wittgenstein wrote the "Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus" after which you have loosely named youself. He wrote it mostly between 1916 and 1918 while he was a prisoner of war in Italy, on borrowed or stolen bits of paper, which may explain its extreme economy of speech.
That was the point of my comment which was intended as a little inside joke about the TLP, which I assumed you knew since you chose it (sort of) for your name. The book has always been famously dense and obscure, dense in the deep, not the stupid sense, but at least with regular punctuation you can tell one sentence from another.
I had no intention of insulting you.
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boxing-baboon Posted Oct 5, 2003
the last person who insulted me. had to be helped out of the roof .he was stuck up there .one punch and up up he went .
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logicus tracticus philosophicus Posted Oct 5, 2003
had you asked ? and not again!! come to assuption based on your personal interputation to any hidden link or premise as to chosen form of representation on this forum i could have ,
directed you here http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/classic/FP36276?thread=116962&post=4163093#p4152945
but there again i presumed! you had already read this post.
Subject: Hello
Posted 5 Days Ago by logicus tracticus philosophicus
This is a reply to this Posting.
Post: 272
used to be name of pet rat twenty years ago mum escaped came back pregers ,baby lived six+ years good for a rat,never once
bit anyone, went to school open days ect with complete stangers on shoulders in pockets excelent pet one hell of a character
but there again it puzzles me that ,taken you have studied the works of witt.. you understood him hence the synopsis, how or in what way did you find my reply hard to follow.
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Tango Posted Oct 5, 2003
The point is witt. was easy to understand because he used punctuation, you did not, hence you not being easy to understand. There was no link made between your post and witt's writings, the link was just with your name.
If i understand you correctly you have named yourself after a rat, that someone else named after witt's writings. Is that correct?
Tango
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dElaphant (and Zeppo his dog (and Gummo, Zeppos dog)) - Left my apostrophes at the BBC Posted Oct 5, 2003
Lil, you ought to be ashamed, assuming people are well read and knowledgeable about philosophy. Tsk tsk. How could you?
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Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence Posted Oct 5, 2003
Crikey, logicus, I must have missed that post completely, for which I apologise! It explains much.
As regards the more recent post that I didn't understand, and Wittgenstein, well, it took a couple of tutors to help me understand him back in the 70's. I re-opened the TLP recently and found it easier (age does have a few benefits). I guess the problem with skipping punctuation is that it makes a post more ambiguous. And there's a lot of deconstruction going on in this thread.
A good rat is hard to find.
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dElaphant (and Zeppo his dog (and Gummo, Zeppos dog)) - Left my apostrophes at the BBC Posted Oct 5, 2003
But a decent entry is easy to find. Re: Wittgenstein - A1024156
After reading that guide entry over, I have a feeling we should all stop this discussion, read some Wittgenstein, then come back and start this discussion again.
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logicus tracticus philosophicus Posted Oct 5, 2003
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/classic/A963579
or
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/classic/A1024156
any reason for two posts.
post 207
If i understand you correctly,
No you dont
you have named yourself after a rat.
yes i have
that someone else named (tsk tsk or tut tut) another asumption.
no they did not
after witt's writings. your connection with name and style of communication of ideas e.c.t
Is that correct?
If you need an explanation i connected the name with the site haveing been useing bob3559 ,as i was unable to use first account.
try and analise this one
bllszbobakahahhahshomeakaharrysheardakahenryshomeakapistolakacatmanakawurzwelgummageakabobble
p.s
not wishing to appear to the causal lurker as paranoid
"inside joke"
what one would that be?
did it surface when i changed my name?
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Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence Posted Oct 5, 2003
We would need to read the Philosophical Investigations as well as the TLP, so that we could understand where Wittgenstein abandoned some parts of his rather hard-line stance on propositions.
But I'd like to advert to post 200, which I really felt was a bit dodgy, Tango. You should understand perfectly well why it matters, although once again I understand you're trying to be less of a, well, I was going to say rat, but that would be unfair to the memory of a good pet recently mentioned. You wish to conceal the identity of the artist and you don't want to be caught out in a lie. My asking IS indeed a "gotcha" question, but you must understand that I have to ask it because I pledged that I would get to the bottom of the whole matter.
And that's what I'm doing. Who drew the graphics for Atled?
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Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs) Posted Oct 7, 2003
This is delightful, d'Elaphaunt...!
The Truth also has a degree of personal conviction, and is colored by a belief that The Truth is far more important than other "niceties", such as tact or a logical and consistent representation of the facts to "stupid" people.
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Tango Posted Oct 9, 2003
If the artist in question wishes to reveal their identity, that is up to them. I am not going to do so.
Tango
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Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence Posted Oct 10, 2003
That's a fair point, actually, Tango. You've been left to catch the flak for all this, for long enough. The artist ought to come clean.
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Tango Posted Oct 10, 2003
You seem to have misunderstood the situation. It was entirely my idea, the artist did the pictures as a favour to me at my request, and that i why i will not reveal their identity. I asked them to do something they would not have done on their own, they should not take any "flak" for that.
And Mina, i am not gullible, from what you have said in this and other places you quite probably are, but i sincerely doubt you could ever make any logical and rational arguements that i am gullible. As i'm sure i've told you before, think before you post, and don't say things as fact when you don't know what you are talking about.
And as for my age, of course i don't deny that i am young, but i do not see the relevence. I am clearly much more capable of logical thought and speech than you, so it is ironic for you to call me "young" in such a blatently negative way.
Tango
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