h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

No, but there are probably a lot of people who are deliberately staying silent on the matter of how ridiculous her posts are because they have allied themselves too closely to be capable of being fair.

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Mina, it must be nice to shed your and finally vent. I can't understand why anyone would expect you to just sit there and be their personal punching bag.

SEF, there are a lot of people who are deliberately staying silent on the matter of how rude you are because it seems that it won't change a thing anyway except for making an even worse atmosphere. I'm one of them. Or should that be 'was'. No, I really can't be bothered...

I am not going round randomly insulting people but pointing out when they are incorrect. Neither do I make posts which have no point but are clearly intended to be offensive or rude (as Mina did when pretending to laugh at something else - an excuse which has no credibility whatsoever). People have the option not to post incorrect things. If I (and others) leave things uncorrected then readers might make the mistake of believing the lie or other type of false statement.

I am polite to people who deserve respect or have done nothing much wrong to lose some default level. However, many people round here have shown that they don't deserve it.

I see, so you are some kind of "Avenger of Truth" superhero type? "No untruth shall go unchallenged, no deceiver unmasked, no inaccuracy un-nitpicked, no tall building unleaped" etc. etc?

To be perfectly truthful, I find people who constantly go around correcting other people to be boors, even in case where they *are* right most of the time.

So you would rather people didn't know the truth?

Tango

people who go around correcting others.Want to look deep within themself for their faults.Witch is usually lots

That is often true, however would you have them stop correcting people?

Tango

Let's capitalize, shall we? There is The Truth and then there's the truth. These are different things, and I often feel that what you and SEF are on about is The Truth. And yes, I would often prefer that people keep their opinions about The Truth to themselves.

None of which makes sense without some further definition. Both the truth and The Truth share the qualities of correctness, accuracy, precision and whatever other qualities go into making something true, but The Truth also has a degree of personal conviction, and is colored by a belief that The Truth is far more important than other "niceties", such as tact or a logical and consistent representation of the facts to "stupid" people. This personal conviction and belief has nothing to do with the correctness, accuracy, precision or inherent truthfulness of any particular fact, but proponents of The Truth rarely see that. The personal conviction and commitment to The Truth can grow to an extreme that is on par with right-wing religious zealots who, not coincidentally, are also convinced that what they are on about is The Truth.

I agree, there is a difference, but we are talking about observable facts, and technical details, so i think they come under the lowercase catagory.

Tango

Yes, I seldom go round telling people the Truth such as it is (in the LTUAE sense) because mostly they wouldn't want to know or couldn't handle it. Even the Science MBs aren't much of an exception to that. Since religion isn't relevant there is only any need to tell people to desist from trying to bring it in or claiming specific bits are true.

Here, as Tango says, I've been telling the truth (lower case) about factual things which can be easily verified by anyone with sufficient education (in the case of really technical things), the willingness to bother to look at all (in the case of the obvious things), the honesty to look properly (in the case of those who are prejudiced) and the ability/willingness to actually think about something (in the case of those with a tendency to make stupid posts).

In my opinion, as soon as you bring honesty, willingness, and to some extent ability into a discussion of truth, it turns into a discussion of The Truth.

I'll repeat the question in post 177 slightly differently:

Tango, is the friend that you know offlist also a researcher on h2g2?

I meant if you bring honesty, etc. into a discussion of facts and details...

Now back to our previously posted question...

Why are you all so bothered about who did the artwork? I discussed my plans with someone offsite, they volunteered to do the artwork, gave me full rights to the pictures, i sent them to Mina. That's all there is too it. Why does it matter who did them?

Tango

i cannot see the relevence of weither a knows b online or offline as i said before on one thread or another this discussion policy interpetation is office politics unfortunetly the office is the various threads and personal space of the particepents whilst i may not agree with many of the ideals and points of view expressed on various threads i still respect that persons right to hold those views.the site is large enough and diverse enough to allow all of us personal space to air our thoughts and concerns about what is going on in our world for each positive review or article published the chance should be given for the oposeing perspective the debate regarding graphics needs to be addressed,their will always be improvements and changes in the rules concerning new images as old aurguments put forward at any constraints at the conception of this site have been changed by better and faster filechecker programs allowing better and fuller integration

logicus, even Wittgenstein used punctuation.

Tango, it matters.

hello lump of rock . Did'nt mean to name call

I said *why* does it matter, not *does* it matter.

Tango