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The Telewest issue
Researcher 178815 Started conversation Feb 9, 2004
Recently, there has been an overly overexaggerated issue of the 'banning' of 'digibox' (or Telewest Set Top Box) users, as a sort of 'hidden agenda' for informing the company Telewest of the unauthorised usage of their equipment and resources for access to Internet sites.
Before anyone begins to think "But it's not just Digibox users who are trouble on h2g2", or "What right of yours is it to ban h2g2 Researchers?", or something which just as similarly misses the point, let me say what happened.
Contact with Telewest was made, giving a technical explanation of what happens when so many digiboxes request the vast array of information on h2g2, and Telewest seem to have acted on this. They are well within their right to close down what has been clichéd as - any sort of loophole, and that is what they appear to have done.
It was not the direct action of any h2g2 Researcher that such an action happened; It was an internal decision of Telewest. The only people who 'closed down the magic-email' are Telewest.
It looks like they /were/ interested in getting anauth'd access shut off afterall. Like I said, in response to all those "But Telewest know - they use it themselves!" and "Telewest don't even care. They already know about it." and "Go ahead. Tell them. I think you'll find they'll be very uninterested" messages, no h2g2 Researcher, who doesn't happen to be a member of Telewest management could have spoken for Telewest.
Note: This entry is not intended for yet another long and pointless flamewar, for those who had friends on the Telewest system, or who also used the Telewest system, but are at this moment using an official mode of Internet access. Please don't bother.
I hope the matter is left abandoned here; No matter what conspiracy theory/hidden agenda you might wish to expose, the main point is: Telewest could not have liked h2g2 being accessed anyway, otherwise it would still be accessible via the Telewest Set Top Box now. Take that into account before expressing your extreme hatred for me.
The Telewest issue
Zyrak(now with added missing tag) Posted Feb 10, 2004
One question for you aka, you said that you too used to abuse the loophole via email to access h2g2, until you got your pc. So if you didn’t have your pc, would you of still campaigned to rid h2g2 of digiboxers?
I think your both a pair of evil conniving dictators. (my opinion) I didn’t call you that just thinking it ok!
AKA and SATURNINE to be removed from the volunteer groups they represent got tyranny!
The Telewest issue
Researcher 178815 Posted Feb 10, 2004
One point.
Main reason why I was motivated to alert Telewest on the issue:
My Broadband Internet and my Digital TV are provided by Telewest (The Internet is Blueyonder, but essentially the same company). Recently there have been a lot of technical problems which I felt could be easily erased this way.
Go easy on the 'campaigned' there by the way. I didn't see any petition or other such item show up in OUR favour. All that happened was that Telewest's DTV department were sent a detailed e-mail. That's where power of the customer stops.
The Telewest issue
Zyrak(now with added missing tag) Posted Feb 10, 2004
Just answer the question I asked. Would you or would you not have informed t/west about the magic email if your only entry to this site was via your digibox? You accessed this site via your digibox before you was a pc user!
The Telewest issue
Researcher 178815 Posted Feb 10, 2004
Shut up Zyrak. You know very well I've already answered that to you -- and others -- in other threads. I'm sorry but if you can't be ased to listen to me when I originally answer you, that's your problem. Go read the backlog.
Yes, there is a ing hell of a lot of it, but you should read it. It contains the answer to your question. Don't believe you can just come to me to answer your question when you just can't be bothered to read through all my posts to see if it might be there, first.
The Telewest issue
Rho Posted Feb 10, 2004
You are breaking the <./>HouseRules</.>, Zyrak. I would strongly advise that you stop.
Rho
The Telewest issue
Moonglum Clampflower (MornC), Muse of Ego, Keeper of the Lamp and Guru, (aka Happinose) Posted Feb 11, 2004
Can I ask what evidence you had to tie in Digibox users with excessive bandwidth usage? Did you get Telewest to give you the router stats?
The Telewest issue
Researcher 178815 Posted Feb 11, 2004
Moonglum, is that a serious question? I'll answer it if you're really curious -- but it seems as one of those - 'trap' questions, where one is forced into revealing they may be, for instance, somehow wrong upon answering truthfully.
The Telewest issue
Spelugx the Beige, Wizard, Perl, Thaumatologically Challenged Posted Feb 11, 2004
What's wrong with questions like that? Nothing wrong with being proven wrong.
The trick is just to make it fun...
The Telewest issue
Zyrak(now with added missing tag) Posted Feb 11, 2004
Rho. it was just harmless fun, i could not resist the temptation, lol
but rest assured my behavior from now on will be within the boundaries of the house rules
The Telewest issue
taintedWICKEDKID Posted Feb 11, 2004
Go easy on the 'campaigned' there by the way. I didn't see any petition or other such item show up in OUR favour. All that happened was that Telewest's DTV department were sent a detailed e-mail. That's where power of the customer stops.
The Telewest issue
taintedWICKEDKID Posted Feb 11, 2004
Go easy on the 'campaigned' there by the way. I didn't see any petition or other such item show up in OUR favour. All that happened was that Telewest's DTV department were sent a detailed e-mail. That's where power of the customer stops.
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