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Post 541

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

hmm, you can learn anything out of school/college maby you just have never tried or maby too hard for one who is not dedicated to a subject? smiley - smiley

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Post 542

Ming Mang

No, you can't learn anything out of college. You can't learn discussion skills on your own (very important in Philosophy smiley - winkeye). You can't learn if you don't understand something and no one can explain it to you.
And are you, perchance, implying that the Prof is not dedicated to learning about such matters as atomic structure? smiley - winkeye

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Post 543

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

No

I belive you must get some of thouse people, friends. that share the same interests.

Atomic structures are only good for Atomic People, the people who realy don't want to make life at all, in which case the shoukdn't be taking Philophy in the first place.

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Post 544

Ming Mang

I'm sorry, how does learning about atomic structure mean you don't want to make life at all?

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Post 545

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

That, is not what I said. I was being subvesive with what I was saying. alwell.

The normal way for people to learn in modern 'socity' is though a school or college, this is cr*p. and I realy don't think that phillophy should be on any cours part or other wise, it realy is too important for that. unless your taking down details such as birth dates or all your subject matter, but then it becomes little more then a history lesson.

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Post 546

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

That, is not what I said. I was being subvesive with what I was saying. alwell.

The normal way for people to learn in modern 'socity' is though a school or college, this is cr*p. and I realy don't think that phillophy should be on any cours part or other wise, it realy is too important for that. unless your taking down details such as birth dates or all your subject matter, but then it becomes little more then a history lesson.

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Post 547

Ming Mang

Oh, OK, sorry.
And it is not anything like a history lesson. I know this because I hate history lessons. Philosophy (of religion) does have a bit of history to learn, but only enough so that you know that rough order in which philosophers lived and the scientific advances, or not, which had been made at the time. You can hardly expect Aristotle to have known that stars were giant balls of fire. The rest of philosophy is about the arguments people have put forward to prove things, and how good the arguments are and criticisms and counter-arguments to them.

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Post 548

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

The art of Argument is not Phillophy, nor is religion, religion has some pillophy entwined into it but it a very diferent system of thought. (ITYS). I can't for the life of me think why people jump to conclutions like that, thats somthing a phillopher would never do.

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Post 549

Ming Mang

No, the art of argument is not Philosophy. However, you can't argue about something you know nothing about, such as theories reached by other people philosophising. Constructing convincing and logically unflawed arguments to support your theory is part of Philosophy.

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Post 550

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

Again I say that is it not apart of phillophy, because phillophy is a way of thinking.

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Post 551

Ming Mang

And how else can you either know that you are thinking philosophically or start thinking philosophically other than to find out how other people did it? Philosophy is not easily defined, and often people have to practise to be able to think philosophically, so if they do not look at how others think who did think philosophically, then they will not be able to at all.
I would also disagree with philosophy being a way of thinking. I don't know how I would describe it, but I feel that there's something not quite right about describing it as a way of thinking. smiley - erm

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Post 552

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

Thats because people use it as a buzz phrase, and what your going on and on about is etemolgy, I'm sure some one though of the word phillophy at some point, but did they not have it just because people did not have a word to describe it?

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