A Conversation for Ask h2g2

Is there anything left to be invented?

Post 41

Mu Beta

But there isn't, is there? And there will continue not to be. Heat energy disperses and becomes unusuable; that's the way of things.

B


Is there anything left to be invented?

Post 42

Malabarista - now with added pony

unless it's converted into electricity by way of a dynamo.


Is there anything left to be invented?

Post 43

Mu Beta

But no dynamo is 100% efficient. In fact nothing can ever be 100% efficient. Second law of thermodynamics.

B


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Post 44

Malabarista - now with added pony

Yes, hence the needing to bring more down than up!


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Post 45

Malabarista - now with added pony

But we'd need a superdynamo to get even close, the n of the exisitng ones is very small, specially for heat conversion, as it has to go into kinetic energy first.


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Post 46

BouncyBitInTheMiddle

There's still the small matter of how you got all that other extra mass up there in the first place. "Oh, I used the other space elevator". smiley - evilgrin


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Post 47

Malabarista - now with added pony

Which other mass? The first one would obviously have to be built from materials carried into space by conventional mehtods. And then we start mining planets, or bringing down all that rubbish up there!


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Post 48

Mu Beta

You seem to think that 'mining planets' will be the answer to all our energy loss situations. It isn't.

1) The more you want to mine, the more mining equipment you need to take. A small mine will only produce a small amount of equipment. The price of mining actually increases exponentially the further you go.

2) If you mine more material, you need more transport up there to bring it back to Earth. How's that going to get up?

3) Even if you mine minerals, 99% of them will require some extraction/purification, leaving waste material. You would have to do this in space too - our waste disposal down here is precarious enough as it is. So you need to fly up the fully equipped lab, scientists etc.

B


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Post 49

DaNuAl

Hmmm, Some gizmo that has more then 3 demensions.


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Post 50

Malabarista - now with added pony

I don'T support mining other planets - I just say it's likely to happen!

If only people would use less tinfoilsmiley - erm


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Post 51

Mu Beta

I'm not saying mining other planets is wrong or right. I'm just giving reasons why it won't solve the space elevator problems.

B


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Post 52

Malabarista - now with added pony

Yeah, I suppose you're right. They'll never run "energy free", but they would use less power than all the planes flying about currently, I think.


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Post 53

Trin Tragula

Nothing for it then - we're just going to have to genetically engineer the next generation to be smiley - angel


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Post 54

BouncyBitInTheMiddle

Erm, I don't understand how mining other planets helps? Then you're just at the bottom of a different gravity well.


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Post 55

Malabarista - now with added pony

On the other planet, you mean? But, for example on the moon, the gravity is a lot less and no atmosphere to "lose" energy to friction, so less fuel is used!


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Post 56

DaNuAl

I'm trying to invent something in my garage. That's where most things happen.smiley - smiley But so far, it aint happenin.smiley - sadface


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Post 57

2legs - Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side...

I wanna invent a new device for drying clothes.

First off, we've washed our clothes.
We put them in the 'drying' machine, which we have already put in the canaster of 'liquid', this is then mixed on to the cltohes.

The liquid is speically charged molecules, that bind to the water molecules in the clothes.
Then an electical currentis aplied and all the water, annealed to the 'special' liquid we added, imediatley comes off the clothes and can be collected smiley - erm there would probably need be some reverse* process to seperate the water from our speical molecule, and then it could be reused smiley - erm I also want to invent a vaccum painter; you seal the room you want to pain totally, put a pot of pain in the middle, and evacuate all the air, and hopefully the pain would end up on the walls? smiley - ermsmiley - doh I think this gin needs to be diluted more smiley - dohsmiley - magic can't some one invent a gin and tonic mixer machine?


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Post 58

Malabarista - now with added pony

I'd be happy if someone just invented non magnet/electricity-sensitive ball bearings, so I could get on with *my* invention.


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Post 59

AYEBEE PW - RIP TERRI

are any of you involved in the invention of the teleporter machine??

i wish you'd get on with it
i hate ryanair


Is there anything left to be invented?

Post 60

Malabarista - now with added pony

smiley - laugh

Even a good 3D display would be good, some kind of hologram


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