h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

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Adib, I reckon science is an easy target for a religious viewpoint that purports a scientific basis. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

What do you propose as an alternative to evolutionary theory? This is not a trick question, but it would help if you could frame your response in a manner that does not rely on refuting Darwinian evolution.

I have a question for the creationists.

Evolution of mammals takes a long time but how do you explain the evolution of bacteria that are resistant to more and more antibiotics. This has happened in the last 40 years.

I also forgot the ?

I don't have a alternative theroy I could just say that Gad created everything but then I would be accused of being one of them stupid creationists. I belive that God did create every thing and who knows maybe he made simple life forms and then altered them slowly to advance in away like evolution That way God still created everything. As for what was said earlier about Darwin does not deny the existence of God well it does it says that life came by chance from dead matter with no help from God basically.
Anyway I just don't see the evolution theroy as being perfectly correct. I mean there are some bacteria that contain the hormone that deadens the pain of giving birth. Can I say which one with out being accused of copy and pasting?
Sorry but I look at dinosaures and birds and I don't see the similarity. I think of water animals getting the ability to survive on land and I just can't see how in practice it would work.
I mean scientists try to explain the bird as a freak mutation that accured in a dino egg and out popped a bird (thats in the punctuated equilibrium theroy). What is the odds from when dino's first appeared and when the first bird appeared happening by a gross mutation in that period of time. It would need its bone structure changes, feathers to be made (perfect ones at that) and strong flight muscles from the start other wise it would not survive and be eaten by predaters.
I also don't see how a animal breeding with another would cause evolution. The species may get a little stronger but it is still that animal. People have breed thousands of types of chickens but at the end of the day they are still chickens not much about them has changed.

There is more but I think I have rattled on enough for know.

Adib

Oh and for Shorttimetorespond?Learnsquickly?Isheeveroffline?
Well I am online alot as I have a lot of time at home doing my Islamic work (not evolution just about Islam). I can learn quickly depending if I trust the person who is saying any thing. And yes I am off line. I was off line from 5 last evening till about 8 this morning. The thing is with me is I spend about 15 mins doing Islamic work then I have a cup of tea while Im having a cuppa I then check this site. Answering peoples questions is important to me when it concerns Islam.

Adib

Evolution of mammals takes a long time but how do you explain the evolution of bacteria that are resistant to more and more antibiotics? This has happened in the last 40 years.
(sorry I cut and pasted that)
Good question Z (look included your ?, better late than never).
Though I think you should have started with I have a question for the creationist as there seems to be only me posting.

A bacteria does not gain immunity from drugs like pennicillin and to streptomycin through evolution.
If you go to True origin you will find information about it there. The bit you want to read is about three fifes of te way down the page. I wont qoute any of it here as its part of a larger discussion and so would result in a lot of qouting from it. So go and read it your self, sorry for the hassle.

Basically he says that it is a form of evolution but only in the sense of adaptive hereditary change. which he goes on to explain by saying that the genetic changes that could illustrate the theory must not only add information to the bacterium’s genome, they must add new information to the biocosm. The horizontal transfer of genes only spreads around genes that are already in some species meaning there is no new life form or example of how a baboon could evolve from bacteria. I used Baboon to link it in with what he was saying on the article when you read it you will see what I mean.

Adib

Wow! A Hat trick of postings moderated! This must be one hot topic!

Hope fully they will be un moderated in a short while.

Adib

Muzaakboy, AKA Adib, is on pre-moderation. Read the moderation messages.

There through moderation so you can go and see if I copied them of some internet site though I have done my best to include my crap spelling and painfull to see gramma mistakes.

Adib

Okay, Adib, so you personally don't like the theory of evolution but you are not prepared to stick your neck out and provide an alternative theory? Is that right?

Darwin only proposed that evolution could happen by chance and probably does. I can't recall reading anything that suggests Darwin ever claimed this was proof that god does not exist.

As for post 824, that's not an argument - you may not be able to see it, but you haven't actually done any real research, have you?

(Adib was (is?) being pre-moderated to check that he actually is writing rather than plagarising. My fault I'm afraid, but house rules are house rules, as I'm sure Hoovooloo would appreciate )

How's it going Adib? What's the weather like where u r? Which continent are u on?

Enjoying the debate?

Every things fine I have a few problems at the mo but then thats normal for me. The weather is cold and damp. I am on the british isle's. I am living in Coventry at the moment. As for the deabt I don't see any thing going wrong with it. We are all talking about the subject and thats the primary thing.

Adib

Must be a different Coventry. Blue sky, some cloud but quite sunny, warm and breezy, dry.

Do you live in coventry. I was referring to what it was like early this morning around 11 I think it was, I have not looked or been out side since then.

Adib

I work there. I sit by a window. It has been a lovely day.

Lucky you. I live here in a hole. I have to keep the curtens closed to maintain heat as its economy seven heating which is rubish. I used to live in Birmingham in fact only moved here August last year. Its easier to get Islamic stuff in Birmingham so I may move bach there.


Adib

Muzaakboy, on that site about the myth of evolution you will also find 'Nine Ways to Know that the Gospel of Christ is True'. See http://www.trueorigin.org/nineways.asp but you don't believe that do you.

Why would a good god lay down so many false trails?


Alji the Magus (don't forget to record your sun sign @ A712595 ) Pastor of the Church of Spiritual Humanism.

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I have no idea why my last post failed moderation it was just info on the Quran and Islams perspective of the bible and Jesus (pbuh).

Adib