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bunnyfrog Posted Nov 13, 2011
As a Researcher who in particular threads is only known as...well... bunnyfrog, and has been so since my old account back in 2000 and something, I am more than happy with the current ability for individual researchers to choose how much information to share.
I am also happy that so many of my fellows choose to find out more about each other and are now friended on fecalbook and whatnot.
The point I am making is that h2g2 is unique and distinct to other social networking setups.
We are all about ideas, not individual lives. If people want to share in lives, thats up to them and there are times and places to do it.
'If' somebody really, really wanted to know me, they could read through the backlog in my previous account and work out my gender, my location, my various jobs and eventually my name. Or they could just ask me.
Its down to individuals to be individuals on their PS's's's's's and no amount of moderation or poking or ing can make people not lie about it if thats what they want to do. Hell, I'm at least 3 people on the above mentioned site, though you can usually tell the difference.
Again, h2g2 is about ideas, and if people want to be ideas of people, thats fine by me.
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Ancient Brit Posted Nov 13, 2011
You should be able to look upon your 'Personal' Space in this virtual world just as you look upon your home in the real world. Researchers should be able to edit their own space, including their journal and message centre. Posting in the open forums and peer review is another issue.
I honestly wish that I had never started this thread.
If it was in my 'power' I would yikes the whole the whole *bl##dy* lot.
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Mrs Zen Posted Nov 13, 2011
>> "One change that I would like to see is the ability to move messages posted on your PS into your conversations list and away from your intro thingy" (Pegasus)
>> You should be able to look upon your 'Personal' Space in this virtual world just as you look upon your home in the real world. Researchers should be able to edit their own space, including their journal and message centre. Posting in the open forums and peer review is another issue.
*puts on Researcher Hat*
One of the things I would really like to see is the ability for people to be able to tidy up their personal spaces. What I'd like to see is
1) People to be able to have conversations started by other people on their Personal Spaces removed *and not have to give a reason* - so if I went over to kea's space and started a conversation that kea didn't want there, she could have it moved from her PS, since it would have to be attached somewhere, I think it would have to be attached to mine.
2) People to be able to yikes a post in their journal or in threads on their Personal Space and have that post removed *and not have to give a reason* so if kea and I are talking about keeping the Mods page up to date in her personal space, and Z comes by and says what time am I coming home, then kea can yikes it *and not give any reason* other than it's in her PS and she doesn't want it there.
*takes off Researcher Hat*
*fluffs up hair*
*hangs hat on coatpeg*
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Maria Posted Nov 13, 2011
Mrs Zen,
please, consider this kind of hat for those critical moments when you have to fight difficult situations:
http://www.google.es/search?q=montera&hl=es&sa=G&rlz=1G1ACAW_ESES441&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=bxLATsyeEIT74QTC6uWTBA&ved=0CFUQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=561&sei=dRLATuKONK3V4QSDlPXbAQ
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Ancient Brit Posted Nov 13, 2011
That's the way to go Ben just put forward in post 102.
To be honest I use Guide Entries as my journal simply because I can update and edit them. The 'My Space' GML page is basically an index.
Let me edit my own Message Box and the existing Journal to give me a fully editable simple text Blog and my home would be complete. Who would hold a key other than myself would be debateable but resposibiluty for housekeeping would be my resposibility.
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Rod Posted Nov 13, 2011
Ah, Maria, the Functional Hat Shop.
I take it all the volunteers have found the Brass Nose Shop?
I did, eventually and a wonderful moment that was, too - but I ain't telling where it is
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Mrs Zen Posted Nov 13, 2011
Heh Maria. I was expecting a link to these
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=tin+foil+hat&hl=en&biw=1258&bih=656&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=oCzATsGTBo6m8gOqtbXZDA&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CBYQ_AUoAQ
B
PS - Still interested in thoughts on the ideas I put up earlier
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kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Nov 13, 2011
>>
1) People to be able to have conversations started by other people on their Personal Spaces removed *and not have to give a reason* - so if I went over to kea's space and started a conversation that kea didn't want there, she could have it moved from her PS, since it would have to be attached somewhere, I think it would have to be attached to mine.
2) People to be able to yikes a post in their journal or in threads on their Personal Space and have that post removed *and not have to give a reason* so if kea and I are talking about keeping the Mods page up to date in her personal space, and Z comes by and says what time am I coming home, then kea can yikes it *and not give any reason* other than it's in her PS and she doesn't want it there.
<<
I see some downsides to this:
I often go to someone's PS to find a thread. If threads are being moved that will make it confusing.
I think people should have to have a good reason for having a thread moved off their PS. People often react on the spur of the moment, and I could see threads being moved and the person later regretting it or realising it wasn't necessary. There is also the issue of how they find that thread again if they need to. Are they still subscribed to it?
If the mods are struggling with the workload currently, this would increase their workload, significantly at times (thinking Della Wars as the extreme).
If I go to someone's PS and start a conversation, and then I find it's been transferred to my PS, can I yikes that and have it removed? Where would it go then?
Ben, I'm curious what you see the advantages would be. Obviously if someone is being or feeling harassed then having a thread removed on request makes sense. I'm not sure what the benefit beyond that is.
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Mrs Zen Posted Nov 13, 2011
>> Ben, I'm curious what you see the advantages would be. Obviously if someone is being or feeling harassed then having a thread removed on request makes sense. I'm not sure what the benefit beyond that is.
I only mentioned it now because AB had raised it. I'll come back with a formal consultation on this at some stage with my Business Processes Hat on; in the meantime I am curious to know what other researchers think.
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Peanut Posted Nov 13, 2011
If you can move the post from your message centre to your normal conversation list you can then unsub effectively removing it from your PS.
As for journal entries if someone persistantly posts in your journal entries and you have requested that they don't I would ague that is provacative and flaming and could be removed under house rules.
I would qualify that, with if your post something in your journal that slates someone else onsite and they respond to that you have forfeited the right to have that post removed (unless it breaks the house rules)
For the most part I would hope that I and others could turn the other cheek in that situation but I can say that it isn't easy and can't promise that I would be always be able to do that, and wouldn't expect anyone else to always be able to either , yes, well again
In this case I would like to see the CE's step in and work some magic
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Rod Posted Nov 13, 2011
>> I would hope that I and others could turn the other cheek in that situation but I can say that it isn't easy and can't promise that I would be always be able to do that, <<
Hence mine @110 - Brass Nose (and other, shops)
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swl Posted Nov 13, 2011
It's a good idea. When idiots come crayoning bile or pursuing their bizarre fantasies on a PS, it should be easier to get rid of.
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Ancient Brit Posted Nov 13, 2011
How many conversations and lines of communication are really needed ?
There must be an awful lot of useless space that could be cleared. This clean up need not be retrospective.
Bear in mind it's 'Personal' Space we are talking about.
A bit like clearing your desk. You should be able to clean up. Of course your PS should always be readable.
Outside your PS how many conversations are you subscribed to ?
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anhaga Posted Nov 13, 2011
'Outside your PS how many conversations are you subscribed to ?'
I'm not sure what answer you're expecting, and I haven't actually counted, but I think it might be pretty even. If you were to ask 'outside of your PS and those of others, how many, etc.?' I'd be certain that the majority of my subscriptions involved personal spaces rather than the rest of the place.
I've got journal threads (my own and friends), message threads, conversations attached to my entries (which seem sort of like PS threads to me), and then a few non-PS threads, mostly in Ask, and I unsubscribe from them pretty quickly a lot of the time.
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Peanut Posted Nov 14, 2011
I don't understand AB, you can clear your space by unsubbing, except on the messages on your message bit.
Sorry to be dense but I'm not clear on what you want or why
*goes off to go back through thread to see if I have missed something* sorry if I am asking you to repeat yourself
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