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Charabia...
Is mise Duncan Posted Nov 20, 2000
Using my French-English dictionary (see, I knew it would come in useful again), I have made the following discovery:
"Char" - charriot
"a" - with
"banc" - Bench.
Since buses have many benches we do the French a disfavour () by not calling it a charaubancs.
Of course, the nearest current French word is "Charabia" which means gobbledygook.
Charabia...
You can call me TC Posted Nov 20, 2000
O God - don't talk to me about that. You wouldn't BELIEVE the amount of English words the Germans use which no monolingual English person would understand. I think I'll write an entry on that, too - I've always maintained there were enough of them to fill a book. The embarrassing part is, the Germans don't realise they're not English English words, but only German English words, and they use them when speaking English, thus speaking charabia.
Charabia...
Wand'rin star Posted Nov 20, 2000
It was I, I admit it! Spelt it charabang - permissable in my idiolect and"(joc)" in Cambridge. (We've already had the derivation, Dunx. Perhaps you were out of the country, but it's going to make indexing difficult for TC)
Charabia could well be the next nonce. Do we put an s on for the plural, and thus gain more Scrabble points?
This brought Charivari into my head. Want a stab at that one?
PS I would have thought a little girl's blouse would be even more wimpish than a biggun
Charabia...
Is mise Duncan Posted Nov 20, 2000
Big, in the phrase "big girls blouse" does not refer to the size of the blouse but rather the magnitude of the blousiness of person being called a blouse. Like "you big eejit".
Charabia...
Kaeori Posted Nov 20, 2000
Love the coffee link! Would be worrying, were it not for the fact that cappuccino is the healthy version of coffee.
I'm a bit lost with all this chara... stuff. Is there an American equivalent?
Charabia...
Pheroneous Posted Nov 20, 2000
I think Charivari plays for Spurs, which would explain the big girls blouses reference. Goodness knows who Cappuccino plays for!
Charabia...
Percy von Wurzel Posted Nov 20, 2000
I think he's in the Chelsea squad with Charabia.
I presume to assume that a great big girl's blouse is blousier than a mere girls blouse.Is 'blousy' an Americanism?
Blowsy
Pheroneous Posted Nov 20, 2000
Interesting one, I always spell it with a 'w' and take it to mean 'overblown', or 'overdone'. But a blowsy barmaid has something to do with her blouse, as well as her hair/make-up etc., so maybe blousey is better.
Charabia...
Is mise Duncan Posted Nov 20, 2000
Aha - a closet Liverpool fan?
Anyway - the nearest US equivalent to the supposedly British English word Charabanc would be greyhound .. as in an old type of bus.
However, there seems to have been a great deal of interference in this thread by French words (I blame the common market myself) because Charavia is, of course, the French word for din or racket.
I suggest an equivalend to the "Academie Francais" to stop this happening again. This could be called the British Anglophone Language Learning School and if we go to the innevitable acronym we can see that I have managed to get a dog and balls into this thread again
Charabia...
Wand'rin star Posted Nov 20, 2000
TC, where are you? Didn't we agree that referring to the original subject of this thread was a red card offence? How many matches does he get sent off for? (ie how many words is he not allowed to comment on?)
Charabia...
The Cow Posted Nov 20, 2000
Ah yes, but since we are not on the same thread anymore logically, then going back to the original subject is going even further off thread!
Charabia...
Phil Posted Nov 20, 2000
Well he might have got away with it (we were talking football) had he not mentioned the initial thread subject.
Charabia...
Wonko Posted Nov 20, 2000
Are you shure at that, Trillian's child? Each time I had the impression germans use german invented english words, I was wrong. These two languages have many things in common, as they have the same roots. I would like to see some examples please .
Shellfish
Wand'rin star Posted Nov 20, 2000
Clam up,I can understand - simple metaphor. But why should the inability to run a whelk stall stand for particular incompetence?
Why do you winkle information out of somebody? Cling on like a limpet is fairly obvious,but why is material said to cockle up if the machine stitching isn't perfect?
More shellfish
Kaeori Posted Nov 20, 2000
Shrimp brain was a popular cuss, at least in my neighborhood. Nowadays it's usually used to describe other (small) parts of the (male) anatomy.
Charabia...
Wonko Posted Nov 20, 2000
Are you sure at that, Trillian's child? Each time I had the impression germans use german invented english words, I was wrong. These two languages have many things in common, as they have the same roots. I would like to see some examples please .
Shellfish
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Nov 20, 2000
Winkle - it is very difficult to get a winkle out of its shell to eat it, it is a fiddly job. Hence winkling information out of someone.
Cockle shells have a shape which is exactly the same as if you tighten up a thread too much in cloth, causing a wave-like creasing in the cloth. This explains cockling up, although I never heard the phrase before.
I still don't know what you mean by an inability to manage a whelk stall. What phrase is this?
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