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I can't remember which ones refuse things like blood transfusions and other treatments because of religious beliefs - surely someone here must know.

Sorry, am just writing this quickly in between classes. I can google it later on.

az

Jehovah's witnesses won't accept blood transfusions on religious grounds, but other treatments that don't involve blood are 'ok'.

They'll have their own blood won't they? I think they can store blood in advance for scheduled operations.

http://www.cirp.org/library/ethics/AAP2/

"The parents have claimed that their religious beliefs prevented them from seeking medical care. Although the parents were prosecuted, charges were dismissed because of the religious exemption clause"


az

I know that there are people who refuse medical care - Christian Scientist for example - what I wanted to confirm was that it was the *same* people who are anti-abortion. It seems likely, I confess.

B

being mor precise, wouldn't it be that all Christian Scientists are anti-abortion, but not all anti-abortionists are Christian Scientists?

Sorry, being more precise fingers all over the place this evening.

Well, I've never met an anti-aborionist who wasn't religious, but perhaps there are some out there.


az

A couple of procedural bits a bobs:

The provision of multilingual support in the NHS is down to the hospital in question to organise. There are no specific rules and regulations that the Trust must abide by. In practice all hospitals will have a panel of staff or outside contacts who can speak a variety of languages and they will call upon these as and when necessary. As you can probably imagine these arrangements are better organised in hospitals such as Kings in London as opposed to, say, St.Mary's on the Isle of Wight.

It is Jehovah's Witnesses who will not accept blood transfusions. However there is a lovely bit of kit available called a 'cell saver' which recyles a patient's blood, cleans it and sticks it straight back into them. Thus one can be operated upon and transfused with your own blood, and hence eliminate the religious objection element of the transfusion problem. The kit is pricey to acquire and operate; and it requires a certain amount of retraining on the part of the surgeon as to how to do a procedure with minimum blood loss.

That was pretty much what I thought, Serephina. If he looked at the womens' files, he should have seen something to give him pause, I would have thought...

<< or you could ask why 'spine' syringes and 'vein' syringes look exactly the same - making an accident of this kind always likely.>>

Exactly! Questions should *always* be asked in situations like this.

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It seemed to me that the court's ruling amounted to saying this, yes, and I think there are some people who would have that point of view.

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What religious groups would those be, azahar? If you can give specifics, that would be good.

Are there any Christian Scientists here who can confirm that? The only case I can think of here, if that of the parents of a 3 year old boy, who wanted to refuse chemotherapy for him, in about 1999. He died, in about 2001, his parents had got alternative therapies for him - but the important thing is, chemo may not have helped him anyway, which is why his parents wanted to refuse it - he'd been through quite enough by the time he was 3, and I had a bit of sympathy for them.
Oh, and a Seventh Day Adventist couple, who were vegan, their child died, and apparently could have been saved by a Vitamin B12 injection. (He was being breastfed, and it would appear that as his mother was vegan he wasn't getting B12.) The odd thing is, all of the vegans I know are Hindu, or "New Age"!

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Of course there are! Not all anti-abortionists who are "religious" are Christian, anyway.

No one said all religiously inclined anti-choice bullies were christian, but you can go on imagining that people are saying that if it fulfils your christian persecution delusions.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/F72097?thread=407833 Where is ���, Post: 1 Posted Apr 14, 2004 by Adelaide the Cat Woman: "Saddam, is that you?" Have you seen what BB has done now? Look at the Journal Entry titled 'Vile Behaviour', and btw, he seems to have removed your other identity from my friends list, so I can't find it! Mum It was only a few moths ago. You had gone to your "son" Apparitions site to ask where his other log-in, ���, had gone and to highlight and complain about *my* "vile behaviour". The sad truth was that you could not see through your sons low down, half witted, guiless and uniimaginative trick of turning one of his PSs into a copy of mine. Fancy not even having the nous to work that one out one brain cell?

Blinyraccoon, if you want to post personal attacks, why do it on this thread, which is about something quite other than the faults you imagine I have. Take it somewhere else!
BTW, tone down the paranoia... no one is out to get you!

First of all I had two windows open and pasted in the wrong reply feild.


no one is out to get you!

Your "son" clones my PS without my knowledge or involvement and then you try to get me "banned and balcklisted" for it. Then to wrap it all up you and your other "son" conspire to make a "serious" death threat against me.

Now lets think is that me being paranoid?

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Yes, it is, given that we're 6000 km away from you, how serious a death threat do you think it could have been? Moral of the story, stop sniping at and trying to hurt my family, especially when it includes a 17 year old - if you knew ought about people that age, you'd know they get very angry, lack a sense of proportion and often, have poor impulse control. I have already apologised for typing his words - no, please, take your issues off this thread! It's for discussing facts, not your problems with us!