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Yes I would mention it to men about their wedding day if it was a visible tattoo (It's likely that a woman would be showing more flesh though) A snake creeping out of the neck or a dragon peeking out from under a sleeve - yuk. How is it degrading to mention a wedding dress ?
Also I wouldn't have thought it was an assumption to want to look beautiful on your wedding day ? How's that degrading ? I assume a man would want to look his best too so it's not sexist. I have seen a few brides with tattoos who actually told me that they were restricted in their choice of wedding dress because their dolphin in one case and devil in the other just didn't look right on their shoulder blade. Remember if you have any guests they are staring at your back for the good part of the ceremony (and before you jump down my throat that includes a civil ceremony too) I agree it's a small thing to focus on but just an example of how permanent they really are.
Re "the term religious... it doesn't have to connect to any religion to be religious'"- Dictionary discription of religious 'pertaining or relating to religion' which in turn is an 'habitual, all pervading sense of dependance on, reverence for and responsibility to a higher power. Spiritual would have been a better choice.

I myself have two tattoos. My first I got when I turned 18, I had wanted it for 4 years previously. It is a small 'crow on a cross' that a friend designed for me on my right shoulder blade. My other tattoo I got about 3 months ago now. It is a much larger chinese dragon on my left shoulder/bicep, this one didnt get as much thought, as it is a flash piece I got after getting annoyed with never seeing my other one. However I do love my dragon.

My masterpiece, which Im pretty sure will be my last tattoo will be another dragon, curling around my right bicep with the body curling up over my back and shoulder with the head on my pec. This one will be quite expensive, large, and will require designing. But as it will be my last one im in no rush to get it.

See, my self-given rule is nothing that cant be covered up by a t-shirt can be tattood. I wear vests a lot of the time anyway (yes even in this English winter), but when I am older if I dont like my tattoos all it will take is a t-shirt (and im sure I wont go out in just a vest when Im older...)


And knowing people in the noisecore scene can show you a lot of tattood people... I have several friends with full sleeves, and one guy I know even has a full sleeve and hand, a lot of which he did himself(he is a tattooist, but they dont usually work on themselves).

It's degrading because

a) Just because I am female, it doesn't mean to say I shall get married, or that I will have a traditional ceremony, or that I am that shallow to want to look like a dumb girl in a dress.
b) You are making assumptions about my tattoo's. How do you know that my tattoo's are going to be big and ugly and stupid? You haven't seen my tattoo...it's certainly not something as dire as a whacking great red devil in the middle of my arm. You haven't asked me any details about it in any form of respectful manner either.

I find your attitude incredibly rude...you can't just step into a conversation with your big size 12's and think you can say what you want about other people's bodies (because it is body art, and a very personal choice) just because a huge bunch of people are getting tattooed for the sake of a trend. When you belittle my image - even if you haven't seen it - you belittle me as a person. It's like, incredibly rude just to ask someone to show you their tattoo...let alone say "oh that's crap, what about your wedding day"...

But Bob...your shoulder one, it's not that big. The dragon *is* gorgeous though...

I don't really have any self-given rules aside from the *slowly-slowly* approach. None on my arms until I am completely comfortable with the idea (I also don't want to look butch either). But there's plenty of time - life is short, but it's not *that* short.

I have yet to decide on my own sleeve design. I'm not getting the flame pattern or anything like that...I'm thinking of transferring a lace-style pattern...like cuffs almost...

I meant much larger than the one on my back, not large in itself. But if I had the money now Id get my 'big dragon' done straight away...

*rubs thighs*

If I had the money, I would have my Jessica Rabbit one right now. Or at least the next parts of my backpiece...

Which remind me of something

OK - I've rubbed you up the wrong way !
Facts about me : I am female. I have size 5 feet so you have made a big assumption about me. And how about offending women who have a tattoo on their arm and as you say look 'butch' That's not very PC. You have offended them. Also poor people who chose a 'whacking great red devil in the middle of their arm' And people who have tribal markings. You have been offensive to them. I have never been personal about anyone - just a general comment that tattoos are probably regretted on certain occasions and asked you (I fail to see how I asked disrespectfully) what yours was. I also haven't sworn or lost my rag.
And I haven't Just stepped into a conversation and think I can say what I want - It was my initial question and yes - I can say what I want. You certainly do on occasions. You have given very strong views on other people's tattoos and many other things in other threads.

So sue me. But I made clear from my first posting that I believe there is a clear division between those who get tattoo's because it is the latest trend and those who get them because they are into body modification culture.

I couldn't care less if you are female. You were still exhibiting gender specific assumptions, not to mention an obvious lack of knowledge about tattooing culture.

As for tattoo's on the arm, girls have to be really careful...it *DOES* look butch...

But then I'm not out to be PC or be nice to people. Just to make sure people don't tread on my dirt and disrespect me...something that I perceived you to be doing based on the facile "wedding day" question, which frankly, every moron asks, and the way you seemed to be lumping in two distinct sets of people...

You're not offending people *again* Sat are you...

Why does *everyone* say that about me?

Maybe you should take it as a hint...

Hey Sat, c'mon, give the lady a break... you did jump down her throat a bit quick there.

And I don't want to start anything but... you probably wouldn't have to defend your 'dirt' and make sure they respect you if you showed a little respect for alternative viewpoints yourself... at least if you calmed down a little and waited before resulting to asterisked swear words and personal attacks...

You quite understandably when older people on these boards belittle you because of your age... this may not happen so much if you didn't show so many youthful traits in the way you talk to people..

(, I've started something haven't I?)

You think I disrespect you for thinking perhaps you might want to get married some day eh ? Bit disrespectful of you to think that if you get married and wear a dress you are being shallow and wanting to look like a dumb girl in a dress. What a shallow thought. You have made alot of assumptions yourself - especially about 'butch girls' and stupid people who want to look good on their wedding day. And you said that people who bring up this very valid point are morons. Everyone with a tattoo would refute the fact that they are following a trend and there are tons of girls with tatoos on their arms who are at this moment offended by your belief that they are butch and that a devil is dire. Could be their religious, intimate belief that you have just disregarded and belittled them as people - everything you have accused me of.
No it was not a gender specific assumption because as I said it applied to men as well.

I meant resorting, not resulting...

darn it all to....

Thanks Fiedler's Fizzle !

Ok ok. You can all shut up now.

You're welcome unANIMOUS

If people want to have tattoos I feel that is fine, although for the reasons you suggest they should think about it long and hard (not suggesting you haven't Sat before you berate me).

I wouldn't be seen dead in a tattoo... I suppose if someone wanted to tattoo my dead body I wouldn't have much choice... although the wedding dress thing shouldn't prove too much of a problem for me

(Now, having one on the thigh with all those short skirts I wear )

Yo, Fielders, you live in the Bristol area? Im in Brissle too...