A Conversation for Miscellaneous Chat
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
Effers;England. Posted Aug 19, 2008
I'd be interested to know what those who support a full ban in all pubs have to say to the idea that a few pubs should be able to continue to be 'smoking'. This could be made totally clear by having a big sign outside. Anyone going to such a pub or choosing to work there would do so in the full knowledge of the choice they were making.
If smoking is not to banned outright indoors, I don't see the difference between that and having a few mates round to your house and having an evening drinking and smoking together indoors.
(Sorry if this has been already covered, I haven't bothered reading the whole thread).
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Aug 19, 2008
>>As for "reactionary prejudices", what else is the smoking ban but a gross over-reaction by a kneejerk government?<<
As for "reactionary prejudices", what else is the being against the smoking ban but a gross over-reaction by a bunch of addicts behaving like spoilt children, who have finally been called to account for their impact on other people and been asked to act like adults?
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Don't know about the UK, but in NZ diseases other than cancer have always been talked about in the debates. I'd suspect that is true in the UK too, and that you are skewing what really happened.
I still think you are trying to have it both ways. The govt takes what care it can of public health with an eye on public opinion. The argument in this thread seems to be saying that the govt should take note of public opinion AND should have the balls to force through unpopular but harder hitting legislation. Obviously it can't do both.
I'd be happier if we left the govt-hate rhetoric out of it. There's alot I can't stand about the NZ govt currently but that doesn't mean everything they do is stupid.
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Aug 19, 2008
Effers, in NZ, the ban is for workplaces and indoor public places. So, despite the rabid arguments to the contrary, people are still allowed to smoke outside and in private places.
The argument for the ban is that workers have the right to be protected, so you can't have licenced smoking pubs that have employees.
I'd also say that if you had smoking pubs, then people like me with friends who smoke would once again be left out because I literally get sick if I spend an evening in a smokey room, and my friends' addictions are such that they would choose the smoking pub regardless.
At my local, smokers and non-smokers drink. The smokers go outside to the garden bar or the covered courtyard to smoke. It works well, and people seem to manage the changes in interactions that go with that. I often go out and sit with the smokers because the smoke doesn't bother me so much outside. I didn't drink in that pub for a decade because of the smoking, so obviously I am very happy about the ban. I doubt I am the only one.
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Aug 19, 2008
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Aug 19, 2008
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
Effers;England. Posted Aug 19, 2008
> then people like me with friends who smoke would once again be left out<
Yes but that argument would go for socialising in people's homes as well. If I had someone coming round like you, I'd make sure everyone went outside. Same with a pub if I chose to go out for the night with you, we just go to a non smoking pub. But on other occasions, it would be nice to have the choice if I fancied a night with a mate, and we both smoked.
It's the same principal of sometimes going to a vegetarian restaurant if a few people are veggies. But you have the choice to go to a meat/fish one on other occasions.
It's not a big deal for me. I can easily live with it. After all there are much more important things in life to worry about, but I have to sneakily admit I would like to have the choice in that ideal, happy clappy cloud cuckoo land I just mentioned...
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
2legs - Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side... Posted Aug 19, 2008
Its just that inflexability that makes the law seem very... err inflexible and counter-logical in many circumstances, quite a lot of times since It came in I've been with people in a pub, all of whom smoke, where the two or three staff on smoke,a nd where the landlord and landlady smoke. And we all have to go outside to smoke. Just seems kinda inflexable when in that case it'd not harm a single person
But on the good point at least they had the foresight to bring back sweeping the road and pavements so as to.. oh, no they didn't. But at least they've installed.. oh no they didn't..
Mind, I guess knowning so many pubs as I do where everyone who goes there, and who works there smokes is my fault for spending too much time in some of the poorest underpreveleded bits of the country Its somewhat differnt by the time you get to some of the wealthier bits of the bigger citys
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
DaveBlackeye Posted Aug 20, 2008
>> Then there's the bizarrre public perception that anything deemed safe by Science is always safe <<
What public perception would that be? Seems to be quite the opposite these days. In any case, there's only one reliable way of telling whether something is safe or not, and asking whether it was once a tree is not it .
>> Afaik, science isn't studying cumulative effect of multiple chemical exposure. <<
I know what you're getting at here, but how do you think they found out that smoking is bad for you in the first place?
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
badger party tony party green party Posted Aug 20, 2008
2Legs your proposal sounds reasonable but ultimately isnt.
Heryllikes a puff so goes for ajob collecting glasses in The Fog and Cough. The customers smoke her boss smokesandshe smokes everyones happy. Till Cheryl gets a bun in the oven.
Marmaduke works as a pub manager for a large pub chain which allows smoking. In a case of poetic irony Marmadukes non-smoking dad is diagnosed with lung cancer. Marmaduke decided to get fit and run a marathon to raise money to pay for his dad's expensive complemntary treatments. Now working in a smokey pub doesnt seem so appealing.
Exceptionsmake things more complex simpleto understand rules are much better and easier to enforce and reduces the chances of unscrupulous bosses putting pressure on staff who are desperate for a job but dont want to work in a smokey pub.
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
Br Robyn Hoode - Navo - complete with theme tune Posted Aug 20, 2008
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
Effers;England. Posted Aug 20, 2008
Yes. And in any case 'safe' is a myth. To ask if something is safe, is a meaningless question. It's always probabilities of risk. And I know which method of judging those probabilities of risk, I'd rather put my trust in, that seems to work best most of the time, costs/benefits analysis.Not as you say because it happens to come from some leaf or even better, some obscure lichen only living on some obscure tree in some obscure valley in the Hindu Kush...
Not that I can boast that I always act rationally based on such results myself, smoking and drinking, far more than is good for me. Because hey, irrationality is often fun. But it *is* irrational. And I reckon smoking and drinking is a whole lot more fun than taking a lichen tablet with some spring water for detox every morning..
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
2legs - Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side... Posted Aug 20, 2008
Who says smoking and drinking to excess isn't rational?; I won't have sufficient money or pension to survive post-working life, hence there isn't much point to my living beyond say 50 or 60, so it makes perfect sense...
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
Effers;England. Posted Aug 20, 2008
Seeing as this thread has focussed a fair bit on the downside of smoking, I thought it might be good for a bit of balance to look at the many positives...
1. It makes you look way (particularly, if like me, you smoke roll-ups and not poncy cigars
2. It helps you cough up lots of gunge in your lungs every morning, that would otherwise be stuck down there.
3. You get to meet some really interesting new people standing outside, shivering in the rain together. There's nothing like having to face a bit of adversity with others for breaking down social barriers. Sort of Blitz spirit thing.
4. You feel wonderfully relaxed the moment you light up and take in that first gorgeous lungful of delectable fug. Something others have to spend years practicing yoga, to achieve.
5. You get a nice adrenalin rush, on the odd occasion you actually notice that giant message on the packet saying, 'Smoking Kills'.
And I'm sure there must be loads more I haven't thought of. Why would any sane society want to interfere with the rights of its citizens to enjoy such benefits at every possible opportunity?
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
2legs - Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side... Posted Aug 20, 2008
6. Post-coitus cigarette...
7. Cocaine and heroine are just so much more expensive, and probably bad for you in the long term.
8. It helps fill in the time when partaking of the waiting at the bus-stop ~==
9. It prevents all that tremendously detrimental worrying that people who expect to reach retirement age must surely face in the light of the pension crisis.
10. I'm 15 stone as it is, without smoking I'd surely be a lot nearer or even over 20
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
2legs - Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side... Posted Aug 20, 2008
12. It makes it easier for people to know what to buy you for Christmas/Birthdays, a box of Havana Cigars is always gratefully recieved
13. It lowers male fertility, which, personally, at least when I was doing the thing with women which would make this a relivent point, was a good thing.
14. Sneeking off to the bike sheds at school for a crafty one was not only good decetful naughty fun of a kinda 'get one over on the teachers' kinda way, but often led to interesting.... things happening behind the bike sheds
15. Regular smokers can useually roll a half decent joint.
16. a smoker needs to frequently pop into the shop to buy more cigarettes/tobacco, which is useful for picking up any other items you may need/have forgotten the last time you were there...
17. You've always got a light, or two, and/or matches, you never know when you might need to start a fire, just be thankful there were a smoker in the plane that crashed, otherwise you'd have had no easy method to survive the cold temperatures at night without their firemaking tools
18. Smokers support the NHS through taxation allowing such frivolities as non-essential fertilisation treatments to be paid for
19. We, the smokers, are the ears and eyes of the UK population, the front line in observational measures to counter terrorism, standing as we do, on the corners outside every tube station, train station, bus station, airport- we're the home guard of the war on terror, ever vigulent and responsive to the goings on that should, and should not occur outside such hubs of transportation.
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
Effers;England. Posted Aug 20, 2008
20. It gives you something to do with your mouth....
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
2legs - Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side... Posted Aug 20, 2008
21. It gives you something else to put behind your ear if you've run out of, or lost a biro.
22. If it weren't for smoking, most blokes wouldn't bother to wash their clothes as often as otherwise they do.
23. It fills in the time between cups of coffee.
24. An expectant Father has a deeper more full sense of responsibility and involvment if he can not only pace, but pace and smoke a cigar outisde the delivery room during his whife's giving birth.
25. Having a 'baddy' smoke a cigar is a quick and easy way to identify the bad guy in many moovies.
26. Smokers help clog up the till girls at the tobacco counter in supermarkets, thus preventing many other, weak silled people from buying lottery tickets, thereby saving their souls from the pit that is gambelling addiction and the social, economic, fiscal, social, thealogical ruin that gambelling addiction brings.
27. Smoking gives teachers soemthing useful they can conviscate from pupils, not only giving the teacher soemthing useful to do to occupy their time, providing them with a useful source of cigarettes, and also helping instil in children a deep sense of the unfairness of society and life in general.
28. Saying 'I'm just popping out for a fag', is a good and easy excuess to escape from awkward social situeations providing a suitable, trueful and quick escape route which also protects the other persons feelings.
29. Zippo lighters are , they'd probably not exist or at least not be so widespread without smoking
A *smoking* issue- over a year later
Effers;England. Posted Aug 20, 2008
30. It enables you to develop your palate for a wide variety of flavours such as,
Acetanisole
Acetic Acid
Acetoin
Acetophenone
6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
2-Acetyl-3-Ethylpyrazine
2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
Acetylpyrazine
2-Acetylpyridine
3-Acetylpyridine
2-Acetylthiazole
Aconitic Acid
dl-Alanine
Alfalfa Extract
Allspice Extract, Oleoresin, and Oil
Allyl Hexanoate
Allyl Ionone
Almond Bitter Oil
Ambergris Tincture
Ammonia
Ammonium Bicarbonate
Ammonium Hydroxide
Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic
Ammonium sulfide
Amyl Alcohol
Amyl Butyrate
Amyl Formate
Amyl Octanoate
alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
Amyris Oil
trans-Anethole
Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
Anise
Anise Star, Extract and Oils
Anisyl Acetate
Anisyl Alcohol
Anisyl Formate
Anisyl Phenylacetate
Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
L-Arginine
Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
Ascorbic Acid
L-Asparagine Monohydrate
L-Aspartic Acid
Balsam Peru and Oil
Basil Oil
Bay leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
Beeswax White
Beet Juice Concentrate
Benzaldehyde
Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
Benzoic acid, Benzoin
Benzoin Resin
Benzophenone
Benzyl Alcohol
Benzyl Benzoate
Benzyl Butyrate
Benzyl Cinnamate
Benzyl Propionate
Benzyl Salicylate
Bergamot Oil
Bisabolene
Black Currant Buds Absolute
Borneol
Bornyl Acetate
Buchu Leaf Oil
1,3-Butanediol
2,3-Butanedione
1-Butanol
2-Butanone
4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
Butyl acetate
Butyl butyrate
Butyl butyryl lactate
Butyl isovalerate
Butyl phenylacetate
Butyl ndecylenate
3-Butylidenephthalide
Butyric Acid
Cadinene
Caffeine
Calcium Carbonate
Camphene
Cananga Oil
Capsicum Oleoresin
Caramel Color
Caraway Oil
Carbon Dioxide
Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
Carob Bean and Extract
beta-Carotene
Carrot Oil
Carvacrol
4-Carvomenthenol
L-Carvone
beta-Caryophyllene
beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
Cassia Bark Oil
Cassie Absolute and Oil
Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute
Cedar Leaf Oil
Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
Cedrol
Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
Cellulose Fiber
Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
Chicory Extract
Chocolate
Cinnamaldehyde
Cinnamic Acid
Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
Cinnamyl Acetate
Cinnamyl Alcohol
Cinnamyl Cinnamate
Cinnamyl Isovalerate
Cinnamyl Propionate
Citral
Citric Acid
Citronella Oil
dl-Citronellol
Citronellyl Butyrate
Citronellyl Isobutyrate
Civet Absolute
Clary Oil
Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract
Cocoa
Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder
Coconut Oil
Coffee
Cognac White and Green Oil
Copaiba Oil
Coriander Extract and Oil
Corn Oil
Corn Silk
Costus Root Oil
Cubeb Oil
Cuminaldehyde
para-Cymene
L-Cysteine
Dandelion Root Solid Extract
Davana Oil
2-trans,4-trans-Decadienal
delta-Decalactone
gamma-Decalactone
Decanal
Decanoic Acid
1-Decanol
2-Decenal
Dehydromenthofurolactone
Diethyl Malonate
Diethyl Sebacate
2,3-Diethylpyrazine
Dihydro Anethole
5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine
Dill Seed Oil and Extract
meta-Dimethoxybenzene
para-Dimethoxybenzene
2,6-Dimethoxyphenol
Dimethyl Succinate
3,4-Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
3,5-Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene
4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-One
6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien-2-One
3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid
2,4 Dimethylacetophenone
alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol
alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate
alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate
2,3-Dimethylpyrazine
2,5-Dimethylpyrazine
2,6-Dimethylpyrazine
Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone
delta-Dodecalactone
gamma-Dodecalactone
para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde
Ethyl 10-Undecenoate
Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate
Ethyl acetate
Ethyl acetoacetate
Ethyl alcohol
Ethyl benzoate
Ethyl butyrate
Ethyl cinnamate
Ethyl decanoate
Ethyl fenchol
Ethyl furoate
Ethyl heptanoate
Ethyl hexanoate
Ethyl isovalerate
Ethyl lactate
Ethyl laurate
Ethyl levulinate
Ethyl maltol
Ethyl methyl phenylglycidate
Ethyl myristate
Ethyl nonanoate
Ethyl octadecanoate
Ethyl octanoate
Ethyl oleate
Ethyl palmitate
Ethyl phenylacetate
Ethyl propionate
Ethyl salicylate
Ethyl trans-2-butenoate
Ethyl valerate
Ethyl vanillin
2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine
2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol,3-Ethyl-2-Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One
2-Ethyl-3,(5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine
5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone
2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine
4-Ethylbenzaldehyde
4-Ethylguaiacol
para-Ethylphenol
3-Ethylpyridine
Eucalyptol
Farnesol
D-Fenchone
Fennel Sweet Oil
Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute
Fig Juice Concentrate
Food Starch Modified
Furfuryl Mercaptan
4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One
Galbanum Oil
Genet Absolute
Gentian Root Extract
Geraniol
Geranium Rose Oil
Geranyl Acetate
Geranyl Butyrate
Geranyl Formate
Geranyl Isovalerate
Geranyl Phenylacetate
Ginger Oil and Oleoresin
L-Glutamic Acid
L-Glutamine
Glycerol
Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated
Grape Juice Concentrate
Guaiac Wood Oil
Guaiacol
Guar Gum
2,4-Heptadienal
gamma-Heptalactone
Heptanoic Acid
2-Heptanone
3-Hepten-2-One
2-Hepten-4-One
4-Heptenal
trans-2-Heptenal
Heptyl acetate
omega-6-Hexadecenlactone
gamma-Hexalactone
Hexanal
Hexanoic acid
2-Hexen-1-Ol
3-Hexen-1-Ol
cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate
2-Hexenal
3-Hexenoic Acid
trans-2-Hexenoic Acid
cis-3-Hexenyl Formate
Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate
Hexyl Acetate
Hexyl Alcohol
Hexyl Phenylacetate
L-Histidine
Honey
Hops Oil
Hydrolyzed Milk Solids
Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins
5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta- Lactone
4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone
2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone
2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde
4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone
Hydroxycitronellal
6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane
4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
Hyssop Oil
Immortelle Absolute and Extract
alpha-Ionone
beta-Ionone
alpha-Irone
Isoamyl Acetate
Isoamyl Benzoate
Isoamyl Butyrate
Isoamyl Cinnamate
Isoamyl Formate, Isoamyl Hexanoate
Isoamyl Isovalerate
Isoamyl Octanoate
Isoamyl Phenylacetate
Isobornyl Acetate
Isobutyl Acetate
Isobutyl Alcohol
Isobutyl Cinnamate
Isobutyl Phenylacetate
Isobutyl Salicylate
2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine
alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol
Isobutyraldehyde
Isobutyric Acid
d,l-Isoleucine
alpha-Isomethylionone
2-Isopropylphenol
Isovaleric Acid
Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil
Kola Nut Extract
Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin
Lactic Acid
Lauric Acid
Lauric Aldehyde
Lavandin Oil
Lavender oil
Lemon Oil and Extract
Lemongrass Oil
L-Leucine
Levulinic acid
Liquorice root, Fluid, Extract and Powder
Lime Oil
Linalool
Linalool Oxide
Linalyl Acetate
Linden Flowers
Lovage Oil And Extract
L-Lysine
Mace Powder, Extract and Oil
Magnesium Carbonate
Malic Acid
Malt and Malt Extract
Maltodextrin
Maltol
Maltyl Isobutyrate
Mandarin Oil
Maple Syrup and Concentrate
Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil
para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One
Menthol
Menthone
Menthyl Acetate
dl-Methionine
Methoprene
2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol
2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol
para-Methoxybenzaldehyde
1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One
4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone
Methoxypyrazine
Methyl 2-Furoate
Methyl 2-Octynoate
Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone
Methyl Anisate
Methyl Anthranilate
Methyl Benzoate
Methyl Cinnamate
Methyl Dihydrojasmonate
Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated
Methyl Isovalerate
Methyl Linoleate (48%)
Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture
Methyl Naphthyl Ketone
Methyl Nicotinate
Methyl Phenylacetate
Methyl Salicylate
Methyl Sulfide
3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone
4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone
5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal
5-Methyl-2-Thiophenecarboxaldehyde
6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One
2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde
5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One
1-Methyl-3-Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene
4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One
2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde
6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One
4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol
4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole
Methyl-alpha-Ionone
Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid
4-Methylacetophenone
para-Methylanisole
alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate
alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol
2-Methylbutyraldehyde
3-Methylbutyraldehyde
2-Methylbutyric Acid
alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde
Methylcyclopentenolone
2-Methylheptanoic Acid
2-Methylhexanoic Acid
3-Methylpentanoic Acid
4-Methylpentanoic Acid
2-Methylpyrazine
5-Methylquinoxaline
2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One
(Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers)
3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde
Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate
2-Methylvaleric Acid
Mimosa Absolute and Extract
Molasses Extract and Tincture
Mountain Maple Solid Extract
Mullein Flowers
Myristaldehyde
Myristic Acid
Myrrh Oil
beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether
Nerol
Neroli Bigarde Oil
Nerolidol
Nona-2-trans,6-cis-Dienal
2,6-Nonadien-1-Ol
gamma-Nonalactone
Nonanal
Nonanoic Acid
Nonanone
trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol
2-Nonenal
Nonyl Acetate
Nutmeg Powder and Oil
Oak Chips Extract and Oil
Oak Moss Absolute
9,12-Octadecadienoic Acid (48%) And 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic Acid (52%)
delta-Octalactone
gamma-Octalactone
Octanal
Octanoic Acid
1-Octanol
2-Octanone
3-Octen-2-One
1-Octen-3-Ol
1-Octen-3-Yl Acetate
2-Octenal
Octyl Isobutyrate
Oleic Acid
Olibanum Oil
Opoponax Oil And Gum
Orange Blossoms Water, Absolute, and Leaf Absolute
Orange Oil and Extract
Origanum Oil
Orris Concrete Oil and Root Extract
Palmarosa Oil
Palmitic Acid
Parsley Seed Oil
Patchouli Oil
omega-Pentadecalactone
2,3-Pentanedione
2-Pentanone
4-Pentenoic Acid
2-Pentylpyridine
Pepper Oil, Black And White
Peppermint Oil
Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil
Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil
alpha-Phellandrene
2-Phenenthyl Acetate
Phenethyl Alcohol
Phenethyl Butyrate
Phenethyl Cinnamate
Phenethyl Isobutyrate
Phenethyl Isovalerate
Phenethyl Phenylacetate
Phenethyl Salicylate
1-Phenyl-1-Propanol
3-Phenyl-1-Propanol
2-Phenyl-2-Butenal
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One
Phenylacetaldehyde
Phenylacetic Acid
L-Phenylalanine
3-Phenylpropionaldehyde
3-Phenylpropionic Acid
3-Phenylpropyl Acetate
3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate
2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran
Phosphoric Acid
Pimenta Leaf Oil
Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch
Pineapple Juice Concentrate
alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene
D-Piperitone
Piperonal
Pipsissewa Leaf Extract
Plum Juice
Potassium Sorbate
L-Proline
Propenylguaethol
Propionic Acid
Propyl Acetate
Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate
Propylene Glycol
3-Propylidenephthalide
Prune Juice and Concentrate
Pyridine
Pyroligneous Acid And Extract
Pyrrole
Pyruvic Acid
Raisin Juice Concentrate
Rhodinol
Rose Absolute and Oil
Rosemary Oil
Rum
Rum Ether
Rye Extract
Sage, Sage Oil, and Sage Oleoresin
Salicylaldehyde
Sandalwood Oil, Yellow
Sclareolide
Skatole
Smoke Flavor
Snakeroot Oil
Sodium Acetate
Sodium Benzoate
Sodium bicarbonate
Sodium Carbonate
Sodium chloride
Sodium Citrate
Sodium Hydroxide
Solanone
Spearmint Oil
Styrax Extract, Gum and Oil
Sucrose Octaacetate
Sugar Alcohols
Sugars
Tagetes Oil
Tannic Acid
Tartaric Acid
Tea Leaf and Absolute
alpha-Terpineol
Terpinolene
Terpinyl Acetate
5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline
1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane
2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6-Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone
2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine
Thiamine Hydrochloride
Thiazole
L-Threonine
Thyme Oil, White and Red
Thymol
Tobacco Extracts
Tocopherols (mixed)
Tolu balsam Gum and Extract
Tolualdehydes
para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate
para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde
para-Tolyl Acetate
para-Tolyl Isobutyrate
para-Tolyl Phenylacetate
Triacetin
2-Tridecanone
2-Tridecenal
Triethyl Citrate
3,5,5-Trimethyl-1-Hexanol
para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol
4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1-Enyl)But-2-En-4-One
2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2-Ene-1,4-Dione
2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl Methan
4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One
2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone
2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine
L-Tyrosine
delta-Undercalactone
gamma-Undecalactone
Undecanal
2-Undecanone,1
0-Undecenal
Urea
Valencene
Valeraldehyde
Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder
Valeric Acid
gamma-Valerolactone
Valine
Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin
Vanillin
Veratraldehyde
Vetiver Oil
Vinegar
Violet Leaf Absolute
Walnut Hull Extract
Water
Wheat Extract And Flour
Wild Cherry Bark Extract
Wine and Wine Cherry
Xanthan Gum
3,4-Xylenol
Yeast
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32. It makes you get out of bed on a Sunday morning at least three hours before otherwise you would, this benifits either, A] the garden and the plants therein, or b] the cleanliness of the car exterior and interior, or C] the amount of housework that gets done,
33. Being a smoker is really the only way to regain some vague sense of being warm when you're socking wet, at 34 AM, sitting besides a river/lake in the pouring rain in the middle of february
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