A Conversation for Lies, Damned Lies, and Science Lessons
go clare!
Mal Posted Nov 4, 2003
The Devil figure, I feel, is not so much invented purposefully by religions, than bought into it subconsciously by those who follow it because it is a racial archetype. It's psychologically viable, after all - God is the Alpha Male, and Samael/Lucifer is the individual who can never perform well enough to avoid guilt. God is also the Group Consciousness personified; Samael/Lucifer is Rebellion opposed to the Authority, which is bad for the gene pool and thus bad in our racial memories. An interesting turn is that of God being the world and the majority of the human population, while Lucifer (remember, literally it means Light-Bringer) represents the path through self-doubt and temptation, ignoring the Alpha Male and the majority, to true independance, and possibly transcendence. Another important thing to remember is that humans tend naturally to self-government and groups - the two go together - and religion is just another manifestation of this evidence.
go clare!
Researcher 185550 Posted Nov 4, 2003
Yeah, suitably truncated for the internet, don't you think?
go clare!
Mal Posted Nov 7, 2003
Well, this thread has fallen into disreputair (partly my fault, yes). Anyone got anything interesting to say? *Looks pointedly at Roadkill*
go clare!
Researcher 185550 Posted Nov 7, 2003
I once got a guy drunk and then waxed off his eyebrows.
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sdy101 Posted Nov 14, 2004
You can apply this theory to every religion. Whats more religions is used as the prefix to almost every war ever fought.
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SpiritusOfChaos Posted Dec 7, 2005
Sounds like someone is afraid of the 'Man' mannnn....
The common conception of God an old bearded man living at the North pole, often winking.
Why does he wink?
It's a metaphor if you look closely my friend. One you have not realised. If you are a logical man you will realise one man besides that... a "God" can control the entire earth. You figure this may be some largescale control operation.
How could you fool yourself so wrong? Relegion is a complete search of yourself, your concious and how it relates to you.
Santa Clause is a simple tale as you have said to fool children. It's to get them ready for the hard reality. They will always be staring lies in the faces. Notches in the wall. Days counted on this earth. Only a certain degree of research but never the whole thing. The uncertainity in things you cannot prove.
So do you think Pi is infinite? They cannot find that last number. How about the fibonnci sequence? All mathmatically proven formulas with no end. The wheel is what probally gets your ass to work every morning but you can never look down as you get out of your car and say 'Hey, I know the exact mathmatical formula to how you work, how can I know that if I do not have the exact number?"
No one is controlling anyone through relegion unless it's a mild control cult. As far as I can remember, us Christians seem pretty free to go in and out of the back door of this relegion nowadays. I'll stay in the Lord's house, the door is never locked... feel free to come on in anytime.
Most of all, be happy.
Lies, lies, lies . . .
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Apr 24, 2006
I get that when climbing mountains. (I'm a hillwalker, not a rope and grapnel guy, by the way.)
Lies, lies, lies . . .
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Apr 24, 2006
And that's a reply to post 401. The sudden urge to throw oneself off a clifftop. But, oddly enough, never off a bridge or any other high place.
TRiG.
eyebrows
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Apr 24, 2006
Why?
(Though I can see it might be fun...)
Santa Good - gods bad?
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Apr 24, 2006
"Once people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing, they believe in ANYTHING."
A GK Chesterton line. From one of his Fr Brown stories.
TRiG.
Hi az.
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Apr 25, 2006
You gave Insight a blast, did you? Do you think you could dredge up a link to that, after all this time? It could be interesting. I'm sure he was able to handle it, though. Competent chap.
I've read this thread through in its entirety in the past two days. It's rather odd, really. Some of these people ye were chatting to are no longer active, others still are. I happen to know that your situation has changed since in some ways. And there are multiple references to the God thread: the two are somewhat intertwined, and without reading both simultaneously, I only get half a picture in some places.
I was involved in the God thread for a brief spell, but this was before my time. And I'm not there anymore. Several hundred new posts show up for that thread on my conversations list. I may go back there eventually.
I seem to be making a habit recently of trawling through old and abandoned bits of hootoo and reopening dead conversations, don't I?
Bye for now.
TRiG.
The Importance of Being Earnest
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Apr 25, 2006
Brighton line, Roadkill, Brighton line.
(Even if you've now reverted to being Researcher 185550 and probably aren't reading this.)
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