h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Just to clear this up: I do not believe in a Creator, Creation, nor do I subscribe to any theistic religion.

The short answer is yes, it's possible to believe in all sorts of contradictory things (I'm not saying that thit is contradictory, mind) simultaneously. Whether it makes sense is another matter.

Believing in religion, that's an interesting one, though. Does one believe in religion? I don't believe in religion, I don't have to, I know religion exists. But the other sense of believe in, do I believe that religion is necessarily a good thing?



It's a head scratcher, and it's entirely different from whether God(s) exist(s).

Clare's not gone, but she's kinda busy .

No, Clare's not gone. I heard from her awhile back on another thread. As Roadkill says, she is busy with the new boyfriend, totally in love and all that. Good for her.

Really too bad about Jem. I miss her and hope she will find a way to come back. Cyber cafes perhaps?

As for Hoo, who knows where he is these days. He was on the abortion thread for awhile but hasn't been there for ages.



Hi Moth!

Welcome to this thread! We're just hanging out here trying to figure out which way this thread is going to go as we seem to have lost the thread, as it were. And most of the people that used to be on it. That's why I suggested that Roadkill join us on the god thread, since he already knows me and Fnord (SORRY - Malaclypse)

Just back from shopping. Time for a quick bite and then I'll see what else is going on here, if anything.



az

The main objection with Jem's folks is to the time- wasting rather than the internet per se, so I think cyber cafes would case problems anyway. And there don't seem to be that many round here anyway .

What were we talking about?

Hiya Moth

Love , Clare's new bf, and Arab springs.

It was their monniversary on my birthday .

Oh, yes, hi Moth!
And, az, I'm Malaclypse now and always will be! Actually, I think it served to show what a nondescript and characterless person I come across as on hootoo, since until I told them I was Fnord with another name, no one realised - whereas I'd be able to recognise Noggin, or any of the Hive Minds, with or without their names.
Anyway, Roadkill, I'm afraid you're going to have to try harder if you're going to divert the lumbering God-thread-beast from its course.

I might go and post something controversial, then again not.

As I said, I'm better at stirring up lime jelly.

well, whoops! just gave Insight a bit of a blast. Am now waiting to see if I'll be struck down by lightening.

still haven't eaten . . . back later.

az

Oops! Just gave YOU a bit of a blasting (well, it wasn't intended as one, just as a general critique of the human condition, but I bet that's how it came out) for that! Sorry!

I think I may be next in line for a blasting....

Well I've not really written anything of substance yet, maybe not.

Moth, Malaclypse - remember JtP? He always said he didn't believe in religion, but was just citing the facts.

I suppose belief in a creator who created, then had nothing further to do with his creation might well not inspire those feelings/motivations which we think of as religious.

Noggin

Mal,

You certainly did give me a blasting, for no particular reason that I can see. Well, whatever makes you happy . . .


Roadkill,

I have never stated my opinion as fact on any thread. If my opinions sometimes come across as what I believe to be a fact for myself, then that is different. It doesn't mean I expect other people to take is as fact.

az

Ah! Yes! As someone philosophical said, "God is dead".

Nietzche,

Ah, JtP. Barely a day goes past without someone mentioning him. Bless. But I'm still confused about if it could've been another Fundamenalist AI joke (I've never laughed so hard at my PC).
Anyway.
That was the point that I tried to make at God?, and the point I generally make everwhere.
And yeah, as long as you stayed out of the symptoms that generally define "religion" from "science" in your personal actions to others, then it wouldn't be a religion. But the two are becoming increasingly blurred.

Religion is (or should be) a motivation to action. Science isn't, per se.

Noggin

Well, perhaps a motivation to find out more.

You must show me these "Fundamentalist Al" jokes.

Sorry, comrade. No luck, but I'll keep looking. It's a guide entry, you see. Maybe Noggin or Moth knows it - the Steve AI address, anyone?

It's a head scratcher, and it's entirely different from whether God(s) exist(s).

See I don't think it is an entirely different question. I think that it's the only way to discover possibilities.

I don't see how you can disbelieve creation, since we live in it. It is here and we've been attempting to understand it for thousnads of years. If there is creation, what caused the singularity which began the causal cascade?

Perhaps I should have said believe in the teachings/brainwashing of religions

or religions lie and God doesn't.
funny I was hoping to find more JtP so I could model a character on him. I don't think he was AI, the steve thing began as a joke and turned into a H2G2 myth. no computer program could be so mad.
there are actual pictures of JtP (and he looks just as you'd expect) on other areas of the web. He can also be found , apparently, in the flesh trying to make people feel miserable about themselves along the beach at Western super Mare. Yet another reason for not going on holidays there. Has he still got a home page?