A Conversation for Old Announcements: January - September 2011

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21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 21

Amy Pawloski, aka 'paper lady'--'Mufflewhump'?!? click here to find out... (ACE)

Good point...


21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 22

xyroth

"Why aren't gifs with transparant backgrounds used?"

Because then they couldn't use the fact that they only do blob to restrict the ability to upload pictures, thus avoiding the issue.

smiley - smiley

seriously though, the blobs work with the current system, and if they went to using gif as a format (or jpeg) then they would have to go back to using an ftp server for the images (although it should be possible to have an images subdirectory on the html server).

any comments from the techies?


21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 23

Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista)

AFAIK,...

"Blobs" is a collective term for images on the server, not a filetype. Most illustration blobs are GIFs, and many do use transparency. Photographic blobs are usually JPEGs, and I even spotted an MPEG movie that had been blobbed... (The "Douglas Adams in the bath" one that resurfaced for the Guide's last birthday)

Some blobs are identical for Alibastar or Goo, while some are different to blend in (or contrast) with the skins better. The different directories for each skin are just there to make this possible - when a new skin is enabled it will have a seperate blobs directory structure, populated with the versions of the image which are appropriate for that skin. (I still wish someone would add a white outline to smiley - blackcat in Goo... smiley - smiley)

I don't have any special, priveleged knowledge of how the Guide works; I just read a lot of threads... I may have missed out something vital, but I think the above is probably substantially correct... smiley - geek


21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 24

Frankie Roberto

When people at the Post have submited artworks in the past, it has been neccessary to do different versions for the different skins. They get the same Blob number but are suffixed with the background colour in the filename. (Check out some of the HTML sources to see)

So Blob B123456 will be B12345white.gif in Alabaster.

A seperate question for those that know (hey that kinda rings) is what's the difference between gifs and pngs? I've used both on my websites and there doesn't seem to be anything between them, am I missing something?


21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 25

Robert

smiley - geek PNG is yet another new format that has improvements in transparency and compression. However, it doesn't work on most older browsers.


21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 26

J'au-æmne

I think there's less copyright issues with the compression algorithm, too, but I'm not sure and may be talking utter rubbish.


21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 27

Primord

Primord wishes there was a smiley,
but plumps for smiley - clown or smiley - dog instead.
smiley - biggrin


21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 28

Whoami - iD dislikes punctuation

http://burnallgifs.org/ explains the GIF vs. PNG thing. smiley - smileysmiley - cake


21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 29

Mark Moxon

Hi everyone.

Important upgrade news here: F77636?thread=185819

smiley - popcorn

Re your graphics questions, it's best to ask these in <./>Feedback</.> or they'll be missed, but the short answer is that h2g2's graphics are anti-aliased to specific background colours, and are exported as transparent GIFs. This provides optimum quality on the biggest number of browsers, but it does mean that all the blobs would need to be regenerated if they were to be usable on a skin with a different background colour to Goo or Alabaster (this is one reason the third skin has a white background for content that might contain pictures).

Happy to explain this further next week, but it's best done in the relevant section of <./>Feedback</.>, as otherwise those interested in upgrade dates but not in PNGs and GIFs may have unsubscribed, and they won't get this message. Thanks.

See you Monday. Enjoy the weekend everyone! smiley - cheers


21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 30

Frankie Roberto

smiley - ok Mark.


21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 31

Robert

I take it we can unsubscribe from here now?


21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 32

Mark Moxon

Good idea. smiley - ok

*unsubscribe*


21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 33

Whoami - iD dislikes punctuation

Seconded

*unsubscribes*


21 May 2002: DNA Upgrade Scheduled for 1030 BST on Monday, 27 May

Post 34

Mark Moxon

But in case you haven't:

F77636?thread=186230


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