A Conversation for Talking Point: 11 September, 2001
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
Reasearcher EMKWizzard Posted Sep 14, 2001
Well, yes I guess I was angry. Angry that with such tragic events happening someone had to whine about not being able to see inane tv programs for one night. I think it was in poor taste and showed a total lack of respect for the feelings of others. The events may not have touched the person who started this conversation personally, but surely anyone must have seen that it did and will continue to affect many people both directly and indirectly for a very long time to come and that insensitivity just got to me. I guess also that the people who did this barbaric act showed a total indifference to the lives and feelings of many other human beings and, while I'm in no way suggesting that the person who started this discussion would do anything like this, I think we should learn to be more aware of and respect other peoples feelings.
Eileen
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
Reasearcher EMKWizzard Posted Sep 14, 2001
Well, yes I guess I was angry. Angry that with such tragic events happening someone had to whine about not being able to see inane tv programs for one night. I think it was in poor taste and showed a total lack of respect for the feelings of others. The events may not have touched the person who started this conversation personally, but surely anyone must have seen that it did and will continue to affect many people both directly and indirectly for a very long time to come and that insensitivity just got to me. I guess also that the people who did this barbaric act showed a total indifference to the lives and feelings of many other human beings and, while I'm in no way suggesting that the person who started this discussion would do anything like this, I think we should learn to be more aware of and respect other peoples feelings.
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
deafworm Posted Sep 14, 2001
sorry but did this post strike anyone else as callous.Thousands of people have died brits,americans,europeans but more importantly human beings.Does this not deserve a bit of respect from the rest of the world.I am a 176 year old girl of the supposedly uncaring younger generation and yet i was appaled when during the 3 minute silence a girl near mre started laughing.I suppose that u may not want it rammed down your throat but i feel it is a suitable act of respect to postpone at least certain shows especially as aparently the producer of frasier and one of the writers of friends were involved in some way.I cannot believe that in a time like that neone could b bothered about missing their favourite prrogramme on tv.Next time well ask the terrorists to postpone their attack till during the night so as people get to watch most of their programmes without hassle
Sue
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
deafworm Posted Sep 14, 2001
sorry but did this post strike anyone else as callous.Thousands of people have died brits,americans,europeans but more importantly human beings.Does this not deserve a bit of respect from the rest of the world.I am a 176 year old girl of the supposedly uncaring younger generation and yet i was appaled when during the 3 minute silence a girl near mre started laughing.I suppose that u may not want it rammed down your throat but i feel it is a suitable act of respect to postpone at least certain shows especially as aparently the producer of frasier and one of the writers of friends were involved in some way.I cannot believe that in a time like that neone could b bothered about missing their favourite prrogramme on tv.Next time well ask the terrorists to postpone their attack till during the night so as people get to watch most of their programmes without hassle
Sue
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deafworm Posted Sep 14, 2001
sorry i meant to say 17 not 176 years old
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
Asterion Posted Sep 14, 2001
I know that we are looking at a huge international impact: 100 Britions, 100 Aussies, people from South Africa, and other people from all over the world. I still think that this is one of those times where America'll include them as part of our loss. Maybe we're looking at the converse of "Ich bin ein Berliner". The country and it seems the rest of the world is saying "I am a New Yorker." Washington should be included too, of course. It just doesn't look quite as quotable, but still important to remember. No wonder the rest of NATO is finally doing something without America's lead.
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treefrog Posted Sep 14, 2001
Well looks like everyone has lost all perspective here....
Wake up people !!! What happend in the States is bad but it's not the end of the f**** world !! Sure, that's what Americans would like to have the rest of the world believe, but that's just because they take ethnocentrism to the extreme by believing America IS the world.
That's why the towers were called the World Trade Center and why their baseball league is called the World Series, etc...
If you ask me the world isn't going to end over this, get real... Sure America will probably bomb Afghanistan, regardless whether anyone there was actually involved (they can make most people believe what they want anyway) just to get their gun off and so that Bush can prove he's a harda$$, most Americans will probably love him for that.
And noone really gives a flying f*** about Afghanistan anyway (which is largely caused by the Taliban being so totally medieval and retarded) so it's an easy target to bash . The military and the all the people screaming for blood can let off some steam and it'll be back to business as usual.
By doing that however America will cultivate the next wave of terrorists who might have an even better idea on how to cause maximum damaga ans suffering. Some things simply can't be solved by hitting them, they just get worse but I don't expect to find an American in charge who has that insight at the moment.
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
ViceChancellorGriffin Keeper spelling Mistakes and Goldfish Posted Sep 14, 2001
What Im going to say may seeam a liile unethical.
BUT
Due to amarican sanctions 1 million Inecent men women and chilodren have died.
Do you rember the locaby Bomming?
Well the amaricans swore reveng and took it Only to prove Latter they had attaked the Wrong COUTRY!!!!!!!!
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Asterion Posted Sep 14, 2001
Would you please head over to the Pax Americana board and answer my question to number 4 in a rational, not angry manner instead of just blasting us?
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
ViceChancellorGriffin Keeper spelling Mistakes and Goldfish Posted Sep 14, 2001
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
Asterion Posted Sep 14, 2001
I wasn't blasting you, you do have a point. Americans don't have the best judgement when provoked. I'm afraid that what happened to Japanese-Americans in WWII will happen to Arab-Americans now. In any case, I was blasting treefrog, who seems to think flaming an entire country and not really making a point I will even think about listening to is productive. Treefrog, I will happily listen to you if you can put together your ideas in a coherent way that I can easily read.
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
Asterion Posted Sep 14, 2001
Too bad they didn't. Then we wouldn't be looking at a large death toll.
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
Whoami - iD dislikes punctuation Posted Sep 14, 2001
Please everyone! About 20 posts ago I posted to say that everyone needed to calm down a bit, not SHOUT, and stop hurling insults at each other. Now come on - this whole thread is becoming an insult-centred thing. By all means have an opinion, and express it if it isn't offensive, but h2g2 is not a place for flaming, abusive remarks, or any heated argument. Especially on such a sensitive issue, please may I urge you to calmly read through what you have typed before posting it. On this international day of mourning, my thoughts and those of just about everybody else are with those affected by this tragedy... ...there isn't a word to describe what people are going through...
Whoami?
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
Kaz Posted Sep 14, 2001
Dear Enauni
in response to your posting 58, I am very shocked at the Big Brother producers. Hopefully there is a legal battle begining. If they don't tell Irvan, then when he gets out he should sue them for everything they have. It is disgusting that they are putting their entertainment profits before letting a contender know that their friends or relatives could be hurt or worse.
I'm sorry if this is a bit strong, but don't you all agree this is totally outrageous?
Please Enauni, keep us up-to-date with this, if not here then on your page or feel free to post at my page. Do you know of an e-mail address for the Big Bro programme, cause then we could all e-mail them our thoughts.
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N'Spite Posted Sep 14, 2001
"I'm afraid that what happened to Japanese-Americans in WWII will happen to Arab-Americans now. In any case,"
I swear, some of you people are insulting bores. I watched c-span eralier where a caller from Louisianna tell a guest of C-span to leave the country because she is an Arab. I compare you to him.
Some people do not have the will to ever learn anything. or they just hijcak planes and run them into sky scrapers.
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taliesin Posted Sep 14, 2001
No, the Japanese-American (and Japanese-Canadian) internment scenario will not be repeated for any nationality.
Yes, some people seem to be incapable of anything but violence, and because emotions are running high right now, some postings here have been insulting. Those postings, and others that are offensive, are being removed.
Please try to refrain from personal attacks or flaming of any kind.
It is never tolerated on this site, and is particularly offensive at this time.
I suggest that if you are really ticked off by something someone has posted, you wait awhile, take a few deep breaths, and calm down. Go somewhere else, and do something else for a while.
When you return, you may find the offensive post has offended many others, and has been removed anyway. If it is still there, and you still feel upset about it, you may alert the moderators, who will review it, and alert the editors of this site.
If it still offends you, and you must reply, please do so in as tactful and rational way that you can.. understand that misinterpretation is very often at the root of misunderstanding.
I speak from experience
Peace
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
Saxomophone Posted Sep 14, 2001
A sidebar on the SA Big Brother show: Here in America, our own BB show has kept their own people in the dark to an extent as well. The three remaining contestants were told that the World Trade Centers were attacked (one of them who lived in NY was informed that her family is accounted for) but they really haven't told any of them quite the extent of what has happened, or the repercussions that are currently underway. I'm not even sure if they've been told the towers had disintegrated, or whether they were just damaged.
-sax
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Saxomophone Posted Sep 14, 2001
There was not just one nationality working in the World Trade Center, Treefrog, nor did the WTC only have an economic impact on the U.S. Incidentally, I'd be curious to see how many Muslims were killed from this attack.
Also, many Americans are just as terrified at what will happen next as the rest of the world is. By assuming that everybody in the U.S. feels the same as Bush does, it is the same as assuming that the populace of entire nations stands by the U.S., merely because their leaders do. And I am certain this is not true.
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
Whoami - iD dislikes punctuation Posted Sep 14, 2001
Well said Tal. Please, everyone, try to remain calm, what is needed here is a place for people to discuss the events, not to attack each other. Goodnight to everyone, and God bless. May there still be hope yet...
Whoami?
*signing off from another 2 hours at h2g2*
Did they really have to totally disrupt our TV broadcasts?
Asterion Posted Sep 14, 2001
""I'm afraid that what happened to Japanese-Americans in WWII will happen to Arab-Americans now. In any case,"
I swear, some of you people are insulting bores. I watched c-span eralier where a caller from Louisianna tell a guest of C-span to leave the country because she is an Arab. I compare you to him.
Some people do not have the will to ever learn anything. or they just hijcak planes and run them into sky scrapers."
Wait, did you just try to insult me? What part of "I'm afraid that what happened to Japanese-Americans in WWII will happen to Arab-Americans now" wasn't clear? Where do I say anything against Arabs in that sentence? Maybe I should have used the verb "could" or "might" or "perhaps" or "unfortunately, could possibly happen if some bigot could have his way" instead of "will". "Will" does not always mean that something is going to happen, it can be used in a speculative and, in this case, negative sense. Or should I start using denotation for everything and confuse you even more?
I was saying that I was (and am) afraid of irrational, prejudical (sorry, redundant, prejudice is irrational) against other Americans just because of their family background. I wasn't expecting anything as bad as internment. I just am worried that idiots that don't understand anything will try to make life for others a living hell. There is no reason for me to be angry at someone just because of ethnicity or religion. I meant that I don't want the small backlashes against innocent people to escalate into KKK-style attacks or government condoned action against any group.
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