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Woodpigeon Posted Jan 30, 2002
Surely in a flexible employment market, people will move to where the *jobs* are? In a lot of places currenly with good job protection, there are few jobs. You might want good protection in your chosen career but it is always going to be a secondary consideration if you can't find the job locally in the first place.
You could also argue that good job protection will hamper employment across the EU. By making it hard to lose your job, you often make it hard for people to find jobs.
If countries have lower job protection they tend to be more responsive as a result to market conditions, and therefore when things get better, jobs begin appear everywhere. The US has hardly any job protection, but I don't see much emigration from the country - in fact the reverse is the case.
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HappyDude Posted Jan 30, 2002
In the E.U. employment protection varies from member state to member state but as citizens of the E.U. are free to work in part of the E.U. the are free to choose the level of protection they require yet I don't think you will fin anyone citing "employment protection" as a reason or changing there residency.
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the autist formerly known as flinch Posted Jan 30, 2002
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I'm not sure if this is reasonable. Surely manufacturers should locate where the raw matirials are - and an available workforce is after all a vital raw matirial.
People should live where they enjoy living. Not where they 'need' to work.
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Bob Gone for good read the jornal Posted Jan 31, 2002
in ths ideal world they can. but the fact is that people need money so they have to live where there is work whether they want to or not
alls the free job market (or what ever the name is) through the EU will do is give people a wider area to move round in
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Bob Gone for good read the jornal Posted Jan 31, 2002
basically. although it will come to a point where it has to stop or impolde all things do
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HappyDude Posted Mar 11, 2002
Spam:- talking point;
Talking Point - The Euro: A traveller's dream or an economist's nightmare? Tell us your views on the single European currency A702253.
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Santragenius V Posted Mar 11, 2002
Whoa - kind of a diverse collection of topics all deriving from a Europe-related discussion...
My 10 cents (and those are 100th of a Euro!):
Cloning - I wholeheartedly support (whoever it was) in that it's wise to get legislation in place first. It's not without precedence either to discuss first and then start doing - when the genetic technologies appeared, the leading researchers actually voluntarily put a hold to it in recognition of the ethical issues involved. I don't recall the details of the moratorium, though - I'll go look...
*ponders net searches as well as the location of his old university stuff*
Voting - I have never fully understood people who don't use their right to vote! everybody (well, just about) in the democratic part of the world seems to put democracy as one of the most important issues - and yet they don't vote? Sorry - just don't get it! Even once, at the age of 19-20, when I couldn't identify anybody I agreed enough with to vote for them, I walked up there and gave a blank vote.
(as a provocative side issue, I'm not fully sure I feel that "certain big nations" can call themselves true democracies when the lader of the country is elected by (approx) half of the less than half of the population who cares enough to vote. That's being in power with less than 25% backing....?)
A European Federation - much as I feel European, I think that the best way to go forward as a closely knit union of independant countries. I still feel that the differences among Europeans are too many and, in some cases, deep to "force" us all under the same hat. Yet there are border-crossing problems that cannot be handled adequately by any one nation acting alone (pollution, crime, international conflict, ...). So I'll welcome further development along the "working together" line but I'd rather not see a European President (hey - I'm a monarchist as many/most Danes!).
The Euro - I did vote for and would again! I believe that Europe, tradewise, will be stronger with the Euro - the concern obviously is whether or not the construction can hold up in the (very) long run. As for Denmark currently being a non-member, I dislike that we have to live largely by the agenda set by the Euro, yet are without any say in the decision processes...
*was that "all"? probably...*
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HappyDude Posted Mar 11, 2002
Santragenius V, just a quick comment on your last comment - the E.U. executive already has a President (http://europa.eu.int/comm/commissioners/prodi/index_en.htm), I merely proposed that the president should be elected not appointed (see http://www.guardian.co.uk/europarl/Story/0,2763,206448,00.html and http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/world/europe/newsid_1023000/1023877.stm (you may have to copy & paste the Guardian link as they do not always parse properly on h2g2)).
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Santragenius V Posted Mar 14, 2002
Oh - hmmmm... You see, he's not titled "President" in Danish but rather chairman (nearest word to the Danish "formand") of the commision.
So we live in the perpetual bliss of not having a European president...
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Fragilis - h2g2 Cured My Tabular Obsession Posted Mar 14, 2002
Oh, please. If they elected a European president, it would draw attention to the whole structure of the EU government. I can guarantee you the folks currently in power don't want that to happen.
It's so much easier to rule from behind the curtain.
It will probably come to pass once awareness has been raised high enough. Somebody poke the media to get them started, eh?
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Santragenius V Posted Mar 14, 2002
Problem with the media is that these days - IMHO (which may not be that humble after all ) - mainly concentrates on things dramatic, scandalous, juicy or if possible all three... And EU politics in general opinion is neither...
*wants to rant on the media issue - but this is probably not the forum of choice for that*
It'll be interesting how strongly the pro-federation nations will come on during the - what's it called? - convention regarding the EU future...
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HappyDude Posted Mar 15, 2002
I think your referring to the EU summit in Barcelona ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/world/europe/newsid_1874000/1874176.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/world/europe/newsid_1875000/1875199.stm
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HappyDude Posted May 13, 2002
A738849 The European Commission, is on the ront page today
also tak a look at F48874?thread=183538
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Hati Posted Mar 13, 2003
Are we supposed to discuss politics here?
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