A Conversation for Ask h2g2

Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 1

IctoanAWEWawi

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/sailing/story/0,10087,1408340,00.html
"In addition to becoming the youngest recipient of the highest royal honour, MacArthur will be awarded the honorary naval rank of Lieutenant Commander in the Royal Navy Reserve." - she's is being made a Dame as well.

Not sure which way round the titles are supposed to go smiley - blush but, snide remarks about whinging aside, well done, congrats and all that.

Not sure that it necessarily warrents a Dame and a Lt Cmdr though. But you can't fault her for dedication and effort.


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 2

A Super Furry Animal

Military titles precede, I think, so you've got it right. As in General Sir Michael Jackson.

RFsmiley - evilgrin


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 3

IctoanAWEWawi

I thought it sounded right. And, as I couldn't find any other Lt. Cmdr Dames on google I went with what sounded right. I wonder if there are any other current Lt. Cmdr Dame's out there?


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 4

Wiro

It is

Military rank | title | name | random 3 letter acromyms

eg

Commander HRH the duke of york

Admiral of the fleet Sir P Abbott




Yes they are all men, but i couldn't find any female examples from the top management of the sea cadet corps

was looking at my task book from my last cadet course


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 5

Wiro

note to comment above:

There are women in the top management of the Sea Cadet Corps, Just not with both a Military title and an honoury one.


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 6

I am Donald Sutherland

Aa Ellen MacArthur already has the MBE she will probably be Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur, KBE

BTW: KBE is a srt of initials, not an acronym. An acronym is a set of initials that make a word. I challenge you to make a word out of KBE.

Donald


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 7

Wiro

So i used the wrong word, writing that posting was a little rushed.


For making it into a word, am I allowed to invent a new one?


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 8

Mu Beta

Surely 'KBE' stands for Knight of the British Empire?

Ellen MacArthur would become a DBE.

B


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 9

I am Donald Sutherland


Of course it would be DBE.

Dame Commander of the most Excellant Order of the British Empire.




Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 10

A Super Furry Animal

There goes my idea to make the word "kebab".

RFsmiley - evilgrin


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 11

Zak T Duck

No doubt she'll be getting an honorary degree from some university or another, so she'll have a BSc to go with her BSC (Bronze Swimming Certificate).

Don't get me wrong, I applaud her for her achievement, but isn't all this a bit overkill?


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 12

Mu Beta

Well, in fairness, I don't think she'll actually use the titles.

I'm not the most qualified of people, but I could still (if I wished) describe myself as:

Master B BEng, GTC, CMat, 3Mas (and any necessary swimming certificates)

B


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 13

IctoanAWEWawi

er, surely since she has an MBE it will be Lt. Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur MBE?

(just had a search, hadn;t picked up that Tanni Gray Thompson is a Dame and so is Kelly Holmes I think).


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 14

Whisky

If you really want to be pedantic (and why not smiley - winkeye) her full title should be

Lt Cdr Dame Ellen MacArthur MBE RNR


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 15

I am Donald Sutherland

Since Dame of the Order of the British Empire outranks a mere Member of the Order of the British Empire, the initials DBE take precedence and the MBE is dropped.

Tanni Gray Thompson and Kelly Holmes could also put DBE after their names but probably don't.

Donald


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 16

IctoanAWEWawi

Ah, I didn't realise a Dame was a Dame of the BE. I thought it was just a Dame. After all, there's nothing.....sorry.

Still, learn something everyday!


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 17

Mu Beta

Ictoan, you're not a minor character from Guys And Dolls, are you? smiley - winkeye

B


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 18

I am Donald Sutherland



Nah, That was South Pacific!



Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 19

IctoanAWEWawi

Some days I wonder, it must be said.
So, having met me twice, what would you say Master B?


Lt Cmdr Dame Ellen MacArthur

Post 20

MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship.

I have been following EM's journey since setting out and am very pleased for her, however smiley - devil isn't there a General Election coming up? Wouldn't someone smiley - love to get Brownie points for being a good boy.... or am I being cynical? smiley - winkeye

smiley - musicalnote


Key: Complain about this post