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What's the origins of "leaf piece" ? (Scotland-Centric?)
swl Started conversation Jun 26, 2008
When I was a kid, we were sent to school with crisps, a penny wafer and something to drink for our "leaf piece". Alternatively, we were given "leaf piece" money to buy our own.
Where did the phrase "leaf piece" come from?
What's the origins of "leaf piece" ? (Scotland-Centric?)
Rod Posted Jun 27, 2008
Don't know about 'leaf' but the 'piece' bit is in use in parts of north UK. Your piece is your packed meal, usually taken to work. (piece of pie, maybe?)
What's the origins of "leaf piece" ? (Scotland-Centric?)
winnoch2 - Impostair Syndromair Extraordinaire Posted Jun 27, 2008
I'm born and bred in Scotland but never heard the term "leaf piece" Perhaps it was just a term used in SWL world?
I have however heard of 'a piece' referring to a packed lunch of some sort..
What's the origins of "leaf piece" ? (Scotland-Centric?)
Dea.. - call me Mrs B! Posted Jun 27, 2008
A Scottish piece is nowadays used to describe a sandwich or slice of bread (eg cheese/ham/egg piece or piece'n'dup - a slice of bread used to soak up the gravy in your mince!) So as Rod said, a packed lunch, though pieces of pie were well beyond the means in most cases!
According to Mooother - a connoisseur of traditional Scottish cookery - a piece was originally the 'porage' that was poured into the lined sideboard drawer until it hardened and then cut up into 'pieces' which were then taken for lunch on the job.
Stumped on the leaf piece though. We had 'play pieces' which was the biscuit or sandwich you took for play-time at school and 'shivery bite' pieces which were the cheese rolls you got when you had braved the North Sea in May and returned to tell the tale, blue with incipient hypothermia!
Will consult the guru (Mooother) and see if she remembers a leaf piece (lief piece maybe? Lots of French terms survived Bonnie PC!).
What's the origins of "leaf piece" ? (Scotland-Centric?)
Rod Posted Jun 27, 2008
Deakie, yes, of cours, pie was rather up-market. The porage drawer seems likely.
Porage - or porridge?
What's the origins of "leaf piece" ? (Scotland-Centric?)
Dea.. - call me Mrs B! Posted Jun 27, 2008
Rod, everyone in the normal world says porridge. That's how I'd spell it being born in the Scottish 70's. If you start talking traditional Scottish recipes, (or look on a box of Scott's oats)then porage seems to be the way that Great Great Granny Jean spelled it so no variations are considered!
What's the origins of "leaf piece" ? (Scotland-Centric?)
Rod Posted Jun 28, 2008
Yep, I looked at my pakkitt of Scott's 'Old Fashioned' Porage Oats and 'tis as you say.
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mikewindle Posted Jun 14, 2012
My grandfather was a miner in Fife. He always took a leaf-piece to work. I believe this happened in the Lothians too, another mining area. Is it short for "relief"?
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Ross Posted Sep 29, 2013
Not short for relief, but "Leave Piece" - leave time being alternative expression for play time at school. Always spoken as leaf piece.
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lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned Posted Sep 29, 2013
Hello Ross,
Welcome to h2g2. Swl is an active Researcher and will be pleased this thread is still drawing interest.
I have left you a message in your Personal Space, hopefully it will help you find you way around our site
lil x
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swl Posted Sep 29, 2013
I'm just pleased to hear a very plausible-sounding suggestion. Thanks Ross.
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What's the origins of "leaf piece" ? (Scotland-Centric?)
- 1: swl (Jun 26, 2008)
- 2: Rod (Jun 27, 2008)
- 3: winnoch2 - Impostair Syndromair Extraordinaire (Jun 27, 2008)
- 4: Dea.. - call me Mrs B! (Jun 27, 2008)
- 5: Rod (Jun 27, 2008)
- 6: Dea.. - call me Mrs B! (Jun 27, 2008)
- 7: Rod (Jun 28, 2008)
- 8: mikewindle (Jun 14, 2012)
- 9: Ross (Sep 29, 2013)
- 10: lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned (Sep 29, 2013)
- 11: swl (Sep 29, 2013)
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