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A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 1

azahar

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"Revered by the religious right and bolstered by a supposedly scientific theory, a new wave of therapist-gurus claim they can 'cure' homosexuality."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,1183596,00.html

"There is no such thing as a homosexual," the chief speaker, a clinical psychologist called Dr Joseph Nicolosi, assures his audience. "Everyone is heterosexual. Some of you may have a homosexual problem. But you are still a heterosexual. 'Homosexual' is simply a description of a psychological disorder, prompted by an inner sense of emptiness. This," he reminds them, "by the way, is non-religious, non-political information. This is scientific information."



Will comment later once I've stopped sputtering in shocked disbelief and dismay!

azahar


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 2

Wiro

what smiley - bleep

and how does that applie to those that are Bi-sexual, and do not chose there partner with any relation to their sex but on personality emotions.


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 3

2legs - Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side...

What a load of b******s smiley - erm I always try to think of society as a thing that evolves, and develops, moving foward, progressing, then lunatics like this open their mouth and put pen to paper, and all mannorism of facies issues forth...


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 4

azahar

It's dressing up homophobia as 'scientific information' that really gets me smiley - steam


az


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Post 5

The Reverend Something or Other

I do indeed believe there is a cure for homosexuality, bi-sexuality and even the common cold. For the first two, you get VERY comfortable in your own skin. Then you make a conscious effort to live your OWN life and the best human you can be. Lastly, let others live theirs. Any lifestyle, chosen or imposed by nature, that does not harm anyone else and is not foisted upon anyone else, is fine by me and should be considered just as valid as any other.

As to the common cold, a similar cure to the only ultimate one for homophobes, is to take a stiff belt of the medicinal and lock yourself away from the rest of the world until you're better. If it takes a lifetime to cure any or all of the above, perhaps your being out of circulation is a plus for everyone else.


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 6

Teuchter

That article in the Grauniad reminds me that if society was more tolerant of people's differences, there would be no need for this claptrap.

How can what two consenting adults get up to in privacy have anything to do with anyone else? And I realise that it's not always simple but if people could be more open about what they were, a lot of the problems would not arise.

On a slightly differet tack - there was an interesting discussion yesterday on R5, ahead of a tv prog next Mon and Tues about people who are inter-sex.
Two of the studio guests were born inter-sex and have lived with appalling prejudice and suffered painful surgical interventions. Their final comments gave food for thought; both said that we need to stop thinking about there being only two genders, male and female, and start accepting that Mother Nature sometimes adds a little more variety.(I paraphrase)


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 7

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

smiley - headhurts


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 8

dasilva

And what about the animals? T'aint be just us 'umans that go in for same sex relations smiley - smiley


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 9

U521150

How come people can think these things? It's so STUPID!

smiley - grr/smiley - cry


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 10

U521150

Waaaaaaaaaaait, wait, wait....

"[Gays] have more depression, more group sex, more failed relationships. Gay couplings are characteristically brief and very volatile, with much fighting, arguing, making up again, and continual disappointments."

I thought that same-sex relationships were often far longer than heterosexual marraige! I mean 2 out of 3 marraiges end in divorce and everything, how could they be MORE bad!! And how can they put it all into a box like that! /My/ relationship isn't volatile, not at all!


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 11

azahar

It seems a part of the growing trend in the USA to embrace Christian fundamentalism and thereby trample on people's basic human rights.

az


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 12

Cat-Eyes: No..... why.... ?

Well, most animals don't have conscious thought, so i guess they just follow their instinct and if they're a female go for the biggest and straongest male and if they're a male try and get a female...

I still think this is outrageous!


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 13

U521150

One, two, three, "Oh smiley - bleeping hell!!!"


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 14

lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned

More than 65 years ago there was another who thought this way.

His name?

Adolph Eichmann!!!


He gave Hitler all the bullets required to begin his extermination regime!

Where will this thinking lead us next??


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 15

U521150

Well at least we don't have to worry about a 3rd World War, given the fact that they'd turn to nuclear weapons and then ALL of us would be in trouble....they wouldn't risk it...

*runs off and starts building bunker*


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 16

lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned

I just wanted to make the point that this conversation should be turned and viewed from every sinister angle posible...

There is no cure for homosexuality!! It has been with us down the centuries and will still be here when mankind is dying out!


This "cure" is just another way of making Gays/Queers/Pansies slink back into the closet and undoing all the hard work of their predessors in bringing them out into the open.

lil x


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 17

U521150

Yeah! It's like they're just trying to guilt-trip people into repressing themselves.


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Post 18

lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned

Precisely!


lil x


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Post 19

U521150

It's just so frustrating when people say these things, cos they're so /wrong/!! So...misinformed!


A 'Cure' for Homosexuality???

Post 20

Still Incognitas, Still Chairthingy, Still lurking, Still invisible, unnoticeable, missable, unseen, just haunting h2g2

Been laughing at that sort of moronic thought and comment for years.Try it! It really works as they can't stand to be laughed at.smiley - roflsmiley - biggrinsmiley - laughsmiley - nahnahsmiley - rofl

Give them a great big derisory belly laugh!

Incog.smiley - tea


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