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Free Jazz -> Avant Garde
The Big Black Mighty Who Sang But Not Too Loud Started conversation Mar 20, 2002
I know there are some jazz fans on H2G2...
So...
What jazz can you recommend for me in the Free Jazz / Avant-Garde style...????
Free Jazz -> Avant Garde
There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho Posted Mar 20, 2002
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Don't know whether he's free or avant-garde, but a friend took me to see his group play a few years ago. Glad I went, but I don't think I'd ever do it again 
Free Jazz -> Avant Garde
Mister Matty Posted Mar 21, 2002
All I can say is:
"Shabadeewopdabeedoobywopshahshabadeedashashabeedoobywopadoobydooshaaaaaahshabbadoobydooshabshababadoobydoowaaaaaaa" etc. 
Free Jazz -> Avant Garde
Kura-Kura Posted Mar 22, 2002
"Free Jazz" by Ornette Coleman would be the obvious suggestion.
Personally, I feel that "The Shape of Jazz to Come" by Ornette Coleman is a good starting point. It seems to have influenced what I would consider as the two main schools of "avant garde"; the traditionally rooted and the serious music rooted schools.
Don Cherry, Art Ensemble of Chicago, Cecil Taylor and Albert Ayler being good examples of the "traditionally rooted school".
Peter Brotzman, Evan Parker and Derek Bailey being good examples of the "serious music'" school.
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Free Jazz -> Avant Garde
The Big Black Mighty Who Sang But Not Too Loud Posted Mar 22, 2002
Thanks...
I currently own Ornette Coleman's complete Atlantic recordings box set (that is, all his Atlantic recordings which still survive!)...
I've bought some Don Cherry and just got this wicked album from the Art Ensemble of Chicago, but now I'm stuck, and don't know where to go...
Thanks for those other suggestions!
Free Jazz -> Avant Garde
Mu Beta Posted Mar 22, 2002
Ah...Art Ensemble of Chicago. A group who believe in saving time by playing 4 different tunes simultaneously 
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Free Jazz -> Avant Garde
Kura-Kura Posted Mar 23, 2002
If you enjoy Art Ensemble of Chicago you may find that the "serious music" school is not to your taste. I'd try to listen before you buy.
It sounds as though you might enjoy Willem Breuker's free jazz/brass band. It could be very difficult to find, I haven't been able to track any of his recordings down, even on brief trips to London. The BBC have a few recordings that were transmitted on Radio 3 but they don't seem to make them available.
If you also enjoy "rock" music, you might want to track down albums by John Stevens Away and Trevor Watts Amalgam.
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Free Jazz -> Avant Garde
Dogster Posted Mar 23, 2002
John Coltrane and Albert Ayler are my recommendations. Coltrane has the added distinction of being the greatest musician of all time by a long way, which isn't bad at all...
Free Jazz -> Avant Garde
The Big Black Mighty Who Sang But Not Too Loud Posted Mar 23, 2002
Thanks, all...
I'm making a list!
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