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whats wrong with the UK
Bob Gone for good read the jornal Started conversation Sep 4, 2001
well there is whats wrong with the americans, wich seems to be less about the people and mopre about the cuntry so that is what I want tis to be, my maine points of corse will be genrolisations but never the les true, of corse there will always be people who ar exeptions so please dont be offended by any of this becase it is not amimed at any one.
1) people are selish, people ar selfish any where and that others me no matter where I am
2)the behaver of Kids, I wil clarify that, there are news storys about children having antisochal behaver order, cerfews and the like put on them by the corts becase they are vandles, bulliesdestroy peoples propperty and genrolly out of controle.
3)perants who dont seem to give a s**t. by that I mean some of them will just give there kids a tener and tell them to go out, insted of actully doing somthing with them. I am not saying that peraqnts should spend evry minet of the day with there children but there are a few who dont seem to take an interst.
ther are others but I will leave it there for now
whats wrong with the UK
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Sep 4, 2001
Bob, do you want this forum to be people from outside the UK, telling the UK people what's wrong with them? Or do you want the UK people to own up and admit what is wrong with themselves and their country?
whats wrong with the UK
Bob Gone for good read the jornal Posted Sep 4, 2001
I basically just waht people to see what they think is whorng with the uk and sugest ways to change it. becase I have been trying to think of them and basically Ime stumped. othe than changing peoples apathy with is a great thing to say but a really hard thing to do I dont know
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Crescent Posted Sep 4, 2001
You mean other than people listen to the tabloids too much, the health service is falling into rack and ruin, there are not enough teachers, the police are understaffed and have to follow unjust, unenforcable laws hurried into place, or just left in place, by a bunch of hypocritical, moneygrubbing, sleazy politicians hell bent on taking any civil liberties we have. Or the fact that it seems that most people still don't like 'furriners' (especially those Evil Europeans with their straight cucumbers and bananas), look for any excuse to become a mob and burn someone and live mostly in idealised version of the past? What do you reckon? is this accurate? Until later...
BCNU - Crescent
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Bob Gone for good read the jornal Posted Sep 4, 2001
more or less, and you carnt forgett the fact that they just carnt keep there noses out. I mean really of corse this is a personal opinion the irish thing would proberlby be allot easyer to sort out if the brittish army moved outand dont forget that there is the mentality of "we are brittish so we are obvasly superior" of course you get that in amrerica and well most other cuntrys you care to name but in a lot of ways the uk seems to take it further
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Ommigosh Posted Sep 4, 2001
Don't know if it is on or off topic, but there must be something seriously wrong when infants cannot walk safely to school by the quickest route without fear of facing an angry mob who want to stop them because they are in the "wrong" territory.
How is this awful suituation in Belfast being reported in other parts of the world?
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Spaceechik, Typomancer Posted Sep 4, 2001
RE: The Belfast situation:
It isn't being reported in America, at least not on National Public Radio, my main source for news. I'm going to link to the BBC site and get filled in. Thanks.
SC
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Wand'rin star Posted Sep 4, 2001
Yes, what are you including in UK - my little Lincolnshire village which has almost nothing wrong with it, other farming areas which are still going up in flames, posh ends of cities, scruffy ends of cities. If we're only talking about the places, perhaps we need another thread for those bl**dy stupid childish ("he started it - no he started it etc) parents in Northern Ireland
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Bob Gone for good read the jornal Posted Sep 4, 2001
the way it should be, as impartally as possible, although the repport I herd was from dublin (or thats where the reporter they where talking to was)admitadly that has kind of taken a back seat to the latest susid bomber in jarusalem over here but that is reall understandable (at from this cuntrys perspecive).
I think the irish thing is a topic all by itself, and any way It will anoy a few people, I mean while I ws on the radio in liverpool it was at the same time as the bulger killers where being raleced (well round about then any way It was just beofer the parole hereing) and I refused to talk about it becase I was an outsider (being irish and not scouse although I was living there) becase it will anoy people you know you will get the "how can you understand you arnt irish" speaches so it unless you are (then I opologise and I am happy to talk about it) can we let this drop, not that t boithers me but it may bother some people an in the long run it isnt worth the hastle
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Xanatic Posted Sep 4, 2001
Bob, would you mind running a spell check on what you write?
I was quite amazed too at how the irish saw it as a problem that a group of little children had to go through their neighbourhood. I just can´t see what it is about the situation that makes them hate each other so much.
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Ommigosh Posted Sep 4, 2001
Xanatic,
It may be something to do with the the fact that they try to live almost seperate lives although they are side by side with each other. Somehow all parties feel victimised at the same time.
Like a lot of folk on mainland britain, I am confused, horrified and appalled and can't understand what it must be like to live there.
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Bob Gone for good read the jornal Posted Sep 4, 2001
sorry I am dislexic and far to bisy at the moment I will do it later and repost it
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Xanatic Posted Sep 4, 2001
I figured you where, and you don´t have to repost. Would just be nice if you in the future would just run it through a spell checker.
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Andy Posted Sep 4, 2001
The problem we have is basically 22 of conservative government who believe, for some unknowable reason, that the public sector is inferior to the private sector. So teachers, nurses, doctors, firefighters, policemen etc, are vastly undervalued, while people running successful enterprises like Equitable Life mess up people's retirements, earn a fortune and are never held accountable for the problems they've caused.
Tony Blair appears to think that if a public service isn't working, the answer isn't more money, it's handing the service over to a company which will introduce a profit motive, thus reducing the money available to provide the service in the first place.
Rant over, until the next time...
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Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit Posted Sep 4, 2001
The Belfast situation is being covered in the papers in the US. We were having a nice whine over electric prices here in California, when one of the women in the lunchroom brought it up, as a sort of Perspective Calibration Device. Our little power problem looks pretty insignificant next to it.
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Woodpigeon Posted Sep 4, 2001
Funny how the media works though, isn't it? You have 7 years of relative calm in Northern Ireland : stories such as "cat caught up tree in Ballycastle" are not very newsworthy after all, are they? Then along comes a situation such as this and the media breathe a big sigh of relief that good old sectarianism is alive and well in Belfast!
The truth is, that the history of the Ardoyne area is long and bitter, and the people in this locality have lived through decades of poverty and mistrust on both sides. It should not be looked at as representative of Northern Ireland at large, nor as a situation which indicates that worse is ahead for the whole region.
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Ommigosh Posted Sep 4, 2001
It is still pretty darn depressing to witness it.
If this is a desperate cry for help (as I heard it described on BBC radio) from the loyalists/protestants/whateverlabelyouwant then they are going about it in a very strange way and won't get a lot of sympathy from the rest of the UK, I would imagine.
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Andy Posted Sep 6, 2001
A good point was raised in the Guardian yesterday. They suggested that the image that the rest of the word will have of Northern Ireland, which had been portrayed quite positively over the past six years, is a group of adults shouting abuse as pre-teen schoolgirls are being held back by lines of police.
You can talk about volitile situations, years of bitterness etc all you like, but the image that remains is of a troop of young children and their parents cowering as someone throws a bomb at them. Not nice.
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- 1: Bob Gone for good read the jornal (Sep 4, 2001)
- 2: Gnomon - time to move on (Sep 4, 2001)
- 3: Bob Gone for good read the jornal (Sep 4, 2001)
- 4: Crescent (Sep 4, 2001)
- 5: Bob Gone for good read the jornal (Sep 4, 2001)
- 6: Ommigosh (Sep 4, 2001)
- 7: Spaceechik, Typomancer (Sep 4, 2001)
- 8: Wand'rin star (Sep 4, 2001)
- 9: Bob Gone for good read the jornal (Sep 4, 2001)
- 10: Xanatic (Sep 4, 2001)
- 11: Ommigosh (Sep 4, 2001)
- 12: Bob Gone for good read the jornal (Sep 4, 2001)
- 13: Xanatic (Sep 4, 2001)
- 14: Andy (Sep 4, 2001)
- 15: Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit (Sep 4, 2001)
- 16: Woodpigeon (Sep 4, 2001)
- 17: Ommigosh (Sep 4, 2001)
- 18: Andy (Sep 6, 2001)
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