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JT Rocketfellah Posted Jul 27, 2003
Hey, Barton, good to see you're back!
It's taken me so long to read up on the last few postings though, it's time to hit the sack, early start tomorrow. Like the way it's drifting though.
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starbirth Posted Jul 28, 2003
>Hello & Welcome starbirth.<
Salutations & Thank you Abbi.
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RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!! Posted Jul 28, 2003
Wondered where you'd been all this time, Stardeath. You don't mind that do you? We're supposedly the children of dead stars after all. We can call you grandpa, hah!!!
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David Conway Posted Jul 28, 2003
Analiese, you've just reminded me of one of the most moving pieces of music I know. For that, I thank you.
http://www.ymbarnwell.com/we%20are-lyr.htm
We Are... (Dr. Y.M. Barnwell)
For each child that's born
a morning star rises
and sings to the universe
who we are.
We are our grandmothers' prayers.
We are our grandfathers' dreamings.
We are the breath of our ancestors.
We are the spirit of God.
(Dr. Y.M. Barnwell)
If anyone reading this thread is not familiar with the music of Sweet Honey in the Rock, I can only suggest that you become familiar with it. Their beautiful vocal arrangements with close harmony combined with powerful lyrics is really not a thing to be missed.
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Barton Posted Jul 29, 2003
So, does anyone wonder why I wanted 0 actively in this conversation?
I'm not ignoring you, I'm just too busy with the really petty stuff called living.
Analeise,
No, I'm not a terribly fast typist. I spend a lot of time composing my thoughts and challenging their apparent content on the page. I try to consider how they might be taken, consider changing them all, decide not to post anything, reconsider, change a few words here and there, decide that I can't say what it is I want to say, walk away, walk back again, sit down and re-re-read, start to delete the whole thing, and, then, decide that the people I'm writing to are all intelligent enough to do some of those same things themselves but that I'll leave all the redundant pedagogic stuff in there anyway because someone else *might* need it/benefit from it and I'm to lazy to take it all out after having spend the requisite hours agonizing over how much I could leave out of making my point in a world where most people are too ready and willing to misunderstand and I might need to be able to point at the background stuff to show that the direction people jumped wasn't the direction I was pushing them.
Then I push 'Post'.
That is when I can finally read what I have written and properly criticize the awkward way I have written it. So, you and everyone else are effectively doomed to face the fact I am all too aware that I am not merely speaking to you.
Barton
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Jul 29, 2003
I did not wonder why you wanted O in the convo, but I do now
Do tell!
*I'm probably missing a joke again*
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RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!! Posted Jul 29, 2003
That's a good one, Barton. I never knew you were a comedian too.
All the world's a stage and the renaissance man speaks to the ages. Lovely!!
You should have been an italic. The higherups at the Beeb would be so confounded and confused but so totally impressed they'd probably just leave us alone. That would be a good thing wouldn't it?
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Jul 29, 2003
http://www.reason.com/interviews/minaret.shtml
This is an article about Liberatarians being very close to Muslims in their philosophy. It relates somewhat to our dicussion on Nation-Tribe-Private ownership.
I intend to visit the site *minaret* but have not yet. More History background would be useful in sorting through this article. I think it will mean even more to you history buffs. Interesting stuff about the rebuilding of Iraq.
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JT Rocketfellah Posted Jul 29, 2003
Strange -
I once found a site of an 'Association of Libertarians'. Can't remember the web address but I couldn't help thinking that it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Just like anarchists getting organised - have they missed an important point or have I?
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Jul 29, 2003
That is what I was wondering, did I miss something?
Reason is a libertarian site that has very good articles on a weekly basis. I always check them out. They are different from the traditional left - right slants. This article sort of threw me though
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RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!! Posted Jul 29, 2003
My cousin flirted with the Libertarians once until she realized they held property rights superior to human rights. They deny that of course but their creed doesn't support the denial.
They did though have a plank in their national platform recommending renegotiation of the treaties with indian tribes, the only attempt by any political party to my knowledge to even address the issue. However, renegotiation isn't quite what we had in mind since why should we trust people to keep future promises who have so far failed to keep the original ones?
There's nothing to renegotiate really until something substantial is accomplished with what's already recorded.
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Jul 29, 2003
I had not realized that.
*thinking*
That article makes a bit more sense then.
Reason has some interesting views,I agree with them at times.
I started tracing the money and at the end was an .org for privatization of water rightsI wonder what their plan for renegotiations on the treaties included? Something about water perhaps?
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David Conway Posted Jul 30, 2003
"So, does anyone wonder why I wanted 0 actively in this conversation?"
0 does.
It was because you knew I'm a fan of Sweet Honey In The Rock, right?
Or maybe because I'm one of those strange people who actually *enjoys* doing research and won't believe something is true just because someone says it is?
Or maybe because I have, in the past, been able to act as an intrepreter when two or more people who thought they were speaking the same language were doing no such thing?
???
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David Conway Posted Jul 30, 2003
0 is always happy at the chance to join a group of intelligent people having an intelligent conversation, whith just enough disagreement to keep it interesting! To say nothing of finding the opportunity to learn a bit by following up on what other folks have to say and the links they provide.
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David Conway Posted Jul 30, 2003
What's the difference between someone in the US and someone in the UK?
A person in the US thinks 100 years is a long time.
A person in the UK thinks 100 miles is a long distance.
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Jul 30, 2003
So Analiese, or anyone else ...Do the libertarians sympathize with Palestine by any chance? With land being a prime interest, I wonder how they lean on that issue.
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