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Fish - Lord Fish and leader of the free fish worlds - Fish Eater Extraordinaire - Curser of the Thingite abusers things! Posted Aug 24, 2003
I havent posted since mid-June coz I've been in an ICU since mid June! Morons!
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Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress' Posted Aug 24, 2003
Chlan-vire-puhwichl-gwyn-gichl-gog-errich-ooeer-uhn-drob-uchl-chlan-tuh-sillio-gog-og-och. AFAIK.
(trying to juggle being logged in as both me and The Language Thing); I made a few misc. suggestions, but they might be better placed here.
The main point is I think, you are using literary forms rather than spoken ones. i.e. 'Rydw' is the written form, with 'dw' spoken. (It is 'Rydw i'n', btw, rather than 'rydw i yn', as if 'yn' or 'y' come after a vowel they are shortened.)
also:
'll' is an aspirated L, i.e. put your mouth in order as to say 'L' but blow instead. Sort of. There is also the aspirated 'R', spelt 'rh'.
'Y' is generally a schwa except in the last syllable of words, or monosyllables (except the words 'y' and 'yn', I believe) when it's either 'i' (in the South) or something else in the North which I am not sure about. (Said to be like 'u' in French, but I don't know what that is either.)
'W' is generally 'u' but 'gwy' is pronounced like you'd expect.
The difference between 'th' and 'dd' is important but often overlooked; soft/hard, they are pronounced as in 'breath' and 'this' respectively. (Which I think was the same as in Old English.)
Non-aspirated 'r's are 'flapped' which is like rolling them, but only once.
'ch' is AFAIK not pronounced like 'church', more like 'loch'.
-the 'ng' sound, which I have no idea how to describe (like 'ing', but without starting or finishing it properly.)
-And even harder, 'ngh' (occurs in mutations).
'f' pronounced as 'v' with 'ff' supplying the 'f' sound.
Also the 3 types of initial consonant mutation. Most frequently comes after the definite article for feminine singular nouns (i.e 'y gadair', 'y ddraig' etc.) and part of indicating possession.
The same root, 'waelisc' for 'foreigner' also went to name Wallonia and Wallachia.
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Fish - Lord Fish and leader of the free fish worlds - Fish Eater Extraordinaire - Curser of the Thingite abusers things! Posted Nov 25, 2003
I've given up now anyway, I was just trying to prove a point in the first place!!
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Quasi-Anonymous Entity (2x(3+(9x(5-5)))x7=42) Posted Sep 6, 2004
"'Rydw' is the written form, with 'dw' spoken. (It is 'Rydw i'n', btw, rather than 'rydw i yn', as if 'yn' or 'y' come after a vowel they are shortened.)"
Theoretically, you're meant to write "yr ydw i'n". You look like a bit of a literary ponce if you do that, however.
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