h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Ello! can I post here please, I don't have any de mylinated conditions, but I have been to conselling.

I did find it a great help with my problems. It depends on the technique that the cousellors use.

At the first session, he or she will just let you talk about your problems, and explain what his or her methods are.

Well of course you can post here! Everyone is welcome that has a nervous system

I'm all for counseling, I think anyone could benefit. If there is such a thing as a short cut in life, this is it IMO

If you are willing to honestly put forth the time and effort you cannot loose.The therapists personality & style is important even though most of the work is done outside of the appointment.

I don't want to be negeative, but I have spoken to people who haven't found counselling to be the right thing for them,It really depends on the situation. My step mother didn't find it useful when she lost her mother.

You need a good therapist, a goal, a commitment.
I would suggest not expecting an instant fix but to aquire the tools.

They are not all good by any means for all persons.
There are many methods.

From Jungian, New Age, Phsyciatry, social workers, psychologists, preachers,cognitive therapy,spiritual, art therapy , on and on.

There are confrontive styles used by some, while others are NOT

I preferred the confrontive style, once I felt safe

Kat;
You need a good therapist, a goal, a commitment.
I would suggest not expecting an instant fix but to aquire the tools.

They are not all good by any means for all persons.
There are many methods.

From Jungian, New Age, Phsyciatry, social workers, psychologists, preachers,cognitive therapy,spiritual, art therapy , on and on.

There are confrontive styles used by some, while others are NOT

I preferred the confrontive style, once I felt safe

As far as it "working" it probably works for the typical 30% that lifestyle changes seem to stick to in general.

Some folks "like" it, go for years, not getting anything but bills and a sympathetic ear They seem OK with that

Abbi I went on a basic counselling course about 5 years ago. I expect that it would take at least 4 or 6 counselling sessions before I see any signs of improvement. On the course we were told about empathy, open questions, closed questions and effective listening techniques. It is going to be on the NHS so I wont have to pay. The counsellor will be visiting the surgery every once a month from London to Essex.

kat

"Everyone is welcome that has a nervous system"

I like that Abbi!!

(but I do have some acquaintances who I would describe as worms; does that mean they are disqualified?)

Terri.

Great Kat! You Go for it Girl!

Thank you Terri & No Worms Please!
They are great for nature, not the Nation!
Well of course unless a Nation member has an afinity for them
I suppose they could keep them "contained" it'd be OK.

Also ,I'd like a snail smiley please! I'm a snail
Turtles are OK too, but a snail smiley would look better!

Great Kat! You Go for it Girl!

Thank you Terri & No Worms Please!
They are great for nature, not the Nation!
Well of course unless a Nation member has an afinity for them
I suppose they could keep them "contained" it'd be OK.

Also ,I'd like a snail smiley please! I'm a snail
Turtles are OK too, but a snail smiley would look better!

Hi Abbi,

I'd really like a smiley too! I asked to draw me a cartoon one today (he's very good at this!) so I can use it for snail mail, I can get it copied & send it to you if you like; it's very cute!

zdt

If you like You are a lot better at mailing than I am. I haven't done my last mailing to youas you know.

I do want one for hootoo posts

I like the "anyone with a nervous system' quote too . Just how nervous does my system have to be?

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Therapy as well as being wonderful for many people, also damages some. It pays to bear this in mind when taking your soul/psyche to any kind of healer (body too for that matter) .

yes good point Kea!

The *nervous system* can be calm or nervous, myelinated or demyelinated

"anyone with a nervous system" could be part of out official welcome page what does everyone think about that?

Sounds OK to me. However, it should be noted that even worms have a 'nervous system' - it's just rudimentary. In fact, any living thing that needs to move from place to place has a brain of sorts. There's even one organism, the sea squirt Ascidian, that starts life able to swim about and attaches itself to a rock when it reaches maturity. At this point it 'consumes' its brain because it no longer needs one - it feeds by filtering food from the water that flows past it.

So maybe the welcome page should say 'anyone with a complex central nervous system and brain'. This would rule out the likes of worms and sea cucumbers (which have long been used for studying the nervous system because their nerves are so darned big), while allowing mammals, marsupials, fish (in case Blues wants to join in) and birds.

with an interest in psychology

I really like "Everyone is welcome that has a nervous system" as an intro


Cheerful, that's a very interesting point about nervous systems - I hadn't thought about their raison d'etre being movement. Do you think that was the evolutinary point og nervous systems developping?


I don't think we can exclude worms and sea cucumbers from dMN though - you never know who's going to turn up on h2g2

wow, look at all these worm researchers I found! (no sea cucumbers so far though)

Worm
worm
wormrow
wormy
Worm Master
wormgear1
wormgear1
wormwood
Wormster
Worminger
Wormit
WORMFOOD
Worm Boy
Wormella
Worm Rancher
iworm
silkworm
stickyworm
lior2001 (Keeper of Cute Worms and Pink Elephants)
Doctor Worm
The Wolf Eating Worm of the Underworld
Mike T Vampiric_worm
fluffyworm
deafworm
Bookworm
Insane EarthWorm
Bookworm
51541 (Urthworm)
The GlowWorm
Mike T Vampiric_worm
BOB:President and CEO of Worm Farming for the Intergalactic Towel Manufacturers Union
Bookworm
Bookworm
Al 'Big Worm' G
The fastest worm in town
The Brainworm
Blue-Eyed BiPedal BookWorm from Betelgeuse

I've got several books on psychology, from putting the subject in intelligent layman's terms to college textbook standard. It's the "layman's terms" one that makes the point that you only need a brain if you move from place to place - none of the others consider why a brain is necessary.

All animals have central nervous systems of some kind. Plants don't move, getting their nutrition from the air and soil, so they don't need one. So I guess that, yes, the central nervous system evolved to allow animals to move around - amongst other things, like feeding, breathing, circulating blood, controlling the organs as they evolved. And once animals were able to move around, they needed a brain to help them make decisions - fight or flight (or hide), 'Is this good to eat?', etc.

Yes it is clear to me, we must allow worms of all sorts
I suppose you get used to them
I am sure some are quite lovely & obviously under appreciated & misunderstood

Where should we put the *dirt bag* to keep them in?
Could it be out back? *holds bag out at an arms length while grimacing*

Depending on what kind of worms turn up we could have a worm farm! You know, somewhere to put all the vege scraps, and the worms eat it all up and multiply, and then you have yummy compost for growing more plants (we could put in a herb garden - Lemon Balm, Hypericum, Lavender, Rose, Chamomille, Rosemary...all great for nervous systems).

Herbal

Some of the worms should be kept in the garden - they're essential for aerating the soil, which helps it to drain better, which in turn helps things to grow. A guy I once worked with hated worms because the worm casts (little piles of soil) spoiled the look of his lawn. He'd rather use an aerator than have worms, and wouldn't even consider waiting for the casts to dry and then brushing them away - a much 'greener' option.

As for the contents of our garden, let's have plenty more fragrant plants, as well as the herbs. A 'perfumed' garden is a wonderful place to sit and relax, which does the nerves (myelinated or not) no end of good.