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Post 1

Trout Montague

Entry: Ordering Concrete - Layman's Guide for Patio Construction - A884388
Author: Dr Montague Trout - U188966

Here we go. Completely innocent from beginning to end.

For record, I got it from Flea Market

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Post 2

Trout Montague

I hope I've credited everyone correctly.


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Post 3

McKay The Disorganised

So what kind of cheese is this ? smiley - erm


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Post 4

sprout

Good solid stuff. Exactly what the guide needs.

Sprout


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Post 5

Trout Montague

I don't think I'm going to entice "The Angry Young Men" to participate in robust debate with this am I?


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Post 6

il viaggiatore

Damn it, Trout!

THere's nothing wrong with this! Nothing to complain about

smiley - grr


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Post 7

Tango

Same here, can't complain. Although is it really Nmm^2 or should there just be one m?

Tango


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Post 8

Trout Montague

Indeed mm. But should be N/mm2.

1 Newton per square millimetre = 1 Megapascal


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Post 9

Tango

ah, milimeters, not meters. Pressure is normally messured in Newtons per meter squared, though, i thought. Is it just in the building trade that's its in mm, or am i remembering those boring physics lessons wrong?

Tango


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Post 10

Trout Montague

I believe that "Newtons per square millimetre" is the correct SI Unit in this case, and even if it is not, it is most certainly the unit most frequently used alongside "MPa". Indeed, British Standard favours "N/mm2" over "MPa".


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Post 11

Tango

I might have been confused by Newton-meters, the mesure of moments (levers, etc.). I'll trust that you're right.

Tango


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Post 12

Trout Montague

Maybe, maybe not.

Whilst an Engineer might use N/mm2 for concrete strength, I think he/she would most likely use kN/m2 for the pressure a structure exerts on the earth under the foundations.

Perhaps, it is a matter of choosing the appropriate units for the scale of the problem. For example, concrete's characteristic strength is probably used to some extent to calculate the ability of a beam, slab or column to resist failure under load. The cross-sectional area of steel reinforcing bars (and concrete members for that matter) are usually too small to calculalte in terms of m2, so mm2 is more appropriate. In which case, N rather than kN is the preferred unit of load.

Maybe.

DMT


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Post 13

Z

Well done,, I'll try and be controversial so we can have a nice debate by asking what kind of canoe is made out of concrete!


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Post 14

Trout Montague

Ah, that will be a concrete canoe.


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Post 15

Z

yes the sort that can be found at the bottom of many a fine canal


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Post 16

Trout Montague

http://www.seas.ucla.edu/asce/2003/Activities/Canoe.html


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Post 17

Oberon2001 (Scout)

smiley - erm Don't really know what to say except I like the entry smiley - ok
I'm no expert on Physics/building/anything really, so for me to point out holes wouldn't be right...
Oberon2001


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Post 18

Trout Montague

Anyone building a driveway this weekend?


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Post 19

Sam

I dunno, what with Alan Shearer creosoting his fence and you and your bloody patios...


It's going in.smiley - ok


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