h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Well why were on the non-subject of langwages (these convos seem like most of my converstions in real life start on a mundane subject like fish and finish on somthing completly different like income tax, whilst going through subject including, politics, sex, gaint elephants named phill and Inumarate people and how they whould represent numbers, you get the idea). I may like to point out that it is interesting to note that in some south american schools the death students where being tought the (US) standard sign langwage (I am afraid I once knew its name but my last few months of code craming have removed some of the totaly usefull, useless knowledge it once contained) they of course rebelled (being forced to lern somthing is not nice as you can probebly all concer) also the fact the funding had been cut may of helped. They invented thair own sign langwage baseing it off the US one, however making it far more complex and building on it like a beaver builds a damm. Somtimes one or two words will drop off but eventully what you have left is a langwage of some considerble complexity to suit its makers. It took some time for interpreters to lern and use the langwage effectively finding it far more usefull than the Internationaly recognised one. This proves that somtimes somthing you create can be built on, no matter how complete or final you may think it is.

or that things never stop growing and changing - like conversations

Hey Darakat,

I think you're referring to Manual English, sometimes called SEE, when you refer to "stand sign language". It's a sign code for English word for word. It's not American Sign Language, usually called Ameslan or Amerslan for short.

Ameslan, like virtually all natural sign languages, was developed by the people who used it. Manual English was developed by educators. That's the major difference. Also, Ameslan's never been written down or at least never had an consential written version, although I think there's been at least one attempt to denote it similar to how choreographers do their notation. So it's free of the constraints of written language. Of course there's probably a gazillion dialects but that's sort of natural I guess.

The other thing is it's been mostly been transmitted by children to other children. It's sort of rare for a deaf child to have deaf parents and vice versa so you don't get the mother teaching the language so much like you do with spoken languages I think.

My mother decided to learn my language after she finally accepted that there wasn't going to be any miraculous unstopping of my ears and I've learned written English pretty well, obviously, so I think we've both tried pretty hard to accommodate each other's limitations.

CL,

You can quote whatever you want but thanks for asking first. You may not appreciate it but that last line is a joke or part of one. The punchline is you drop a coin in his cup and walk away because it's one of those situations where you really can't do anything right, can't explain why and don't want to appear rude. So what else can you do? &;D

Yes that probebly it, most likely what it is. But as you can all see I have not lernt written eglish very well, this is probebly because I dispised my grade 0, 1 and 2 teachers and refused to do the work (they never noticed ayaway so what was the point?) and thus now my spelling and grammer anit exactly the best in the world. But once again I think my personal probelems are a little off whatever subject we are now on... What where we talking about anyway? I meen origionly (at the start?)?

Look in the Subject header. It's still there. Doh!!!

Ah... We were talking about that? Whoopsydassy!

I know, you were expecting, "A Short Treatise on the Orthography of Welsh as Reflected in the Bardic Traditions", correct? &;D

No actuly I was expecting "Phrase structure grammers and there application in artifical Inteligence when applied to the structure of Nural networks and including applications form the overlaying therome of the over compensateded abbliity to recognise compliation and its application in C, C++, java, PASCAL and COBOL and how these all relate to the overall theory of cybernetics and its applications on pharse structure." But I think thats just asking for to much....

I was hoping you could put all of that in layman's terms but I think you've already tried. I never knew there was an overlaying theorem. I always assumed it just happened naturally in depositional environments and required no deductive justification. Silly me.

In laymens terms its how a compiler regonises what some function writen in code is and how it changes it into binary and/or hexidecmail.

Okay, so are you saying there's an algorhythm for this that works regardless of the code language or hardware character set?

No it work for the Charicter set or code, der thats why its called a Language it cant understand whats not in it. Thats called Syntax... Sorry for the first principle lecture but it was needed.

Do you know who Grace Hopper is?

Um I am not a liberty to reply to that question for it may incriminate me.

How would it be incriminating to identify the woman who invented the compiler?

Um it mainly involes a Fish, two days in the Sahara deserd and a bet of $72. Anyway the point is that she invented the Builder and not the more lossly used term of Compiler (which is simply a appliaction dontyaknow) at least thats what my IT lecturer said and he has letters after his name so he has to be right (at least as far as the exam is concerned after that its just flabbery which I will ignore and join the rest of the human race with there strange deffintions of compiler and builder (its almost the same thing anyway I dont see what the fuss was about a lot of people where arguwing with him after the lecture so he is probebly wrong).

Yes, well he is full of something other than his own important letters after his name certainly.

The builders I'm familiar with are used to create expressions or programming statements out of prefab functions or other components. They have nothing whatever to do with compilers which translate code into machine language. Now, I might be able to swallow the notion that an assembler is a kind of builder, but that's still a stretch.

What drugs is this lecturer using? &;D

I donno, but I wan't some!

Humm well thats seems to rap it all up for this conversation. Oh well...