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Possibly. It did seem something like that happened.

In fact that raises the question ... the 1,100 year old Dr dies in the first episode ... but he's had no regenerations (the face is the same) ... but if he's got more regenerations or been reset on that front ... why does he die?

I have said it before but if they let the Doc get away with his regeneration thing early it would be a terrible, terrible, wasted opportunity.

I mean think about it, if they don't mention or sort it then the 13th Doctor will beleive, constantly, that he is in real mortal danger in everything he does. He will think death means death.

Firstly that will create real jeopardy, but it will also allow them to show case some real nobility from the Doc. Obviouslt we all will know that they will find a way around.

But for me it would be utterly ludicrous to sort that now. And I will be most cross with Mr Moffat if he does so.

FB

has anyone considered the doctor who dies is a "flesh" doctor and thats why the body had to be burned, to stop ID of the corpse!!!!

Yes ... certain posters mentioned after the Flesh episode that it was rather convenient having a double Doctor appear.

Except we saw the Doctor Ganger explode.

and we never saw amy become a ganger!!!

the doctor could travel back to where he could pick up some flesh

it would not be his "double" that was caused by the energy strike

"doctor in the toilet!!! in the first epp, could have been in a ganger cage so the flesh resembles him, stays there to maintain the flesh form after the shooting untill the flesh is burned,"

Why would the toilet of an early 21st Century American diner have a Ganger cage in it?

Taff - what are you suggesting when you say "we never saw Amy become a ganger"?

Is the title of episode 1 "The Impossible Astronaut" more revealing that we give it credence for?

Why is it impossible?

because river/astonaut, kills dr before all/ most of her interaction with him

time lords when they die are removed from history, thats why there are no, pre time war time lords running around, and why dr is so alone after the master died, he cant go back to a pre dead master time and finsd a pre dead master, so if river kills the dr she would not be able to interact with him in her future

"time lords when they die are removed from history"

Since when?

so all the time lords who died before the time war are still out there somewhere and the dr is not the last time lord in the universe???

I dunno.

It was just news to me that Time Lords are removed from history when they die.

Well, timelords generally didn't go galavanting about the place. Apart from The Doctor, The Master, The Rani, Romana, The Corsair (and all the others caught by House)...

So, they could potentially be knocking about the place, I guess, and if the Doctor wanted to, and if it wasn't considered to be crossing his personal time-line (not sure on that one), he could go and find them.

But the timelords on Gallifrey were removed from all time because the Doctor purposely locked them in a time bubble thing.


Geggs

""So, they could potentially be knocking about the place, I guess, and if the Doctor wanted to, and if it wasn't considered to be crossing his personal time-line (not sure on that one), he could go and find them.""

then why all the anghst about being the last timelord???

At first, I assumed that the weapon used to kill the Doctor in 'The Impossible Astronaut' was especially designed to override his regeneration, and this would be explained thereafter. Maybe it still will.
The other issue at the time, which I think I pointed out, was the reason for burning his body. River said it was because a Time Lord's body is prized and dangerous, and needed to be destroyed down to the last cell. As far as I can see though, burning the body would not have this effect. In fact, quite the opposite: what with all the ash, partly evaporated bodily fluids, partially burned bones, etc. the organic material would be sprayed over a wide area. If someone were looking for it, the entire lake and its surroundings would surely be covered with it! It make sense to me that there is some other explanation we haven't been told.

Either that or a Who writer got the science wrong... stranger things have happened!

Back when the first episode aired, I complained about the naff physics of River's bullet 'pushing' The Dr's Stetson off, when in fact it would pass straight through it (and if a little lower, and depending on the bullet, him too.)

I think it was Honest Iago who at the time upbraided me for complaining about a physics problem in a show that features a 900 year old alien time travelling in a magic expandable box, and he rather had a point.

And still does.

Why the angst?

Perhaps the timelords are constrained to have mutually parallel time lines, even though they can muck about with the rest of time as much as they like?

Our perhaps it was something specific to the time wars that involved protaganists being removed from time completely?

Whatever the reason the Doctor presumably has good cause to think of himself as the last timelord.


Geggs

"...mutually parallel time lines..."

I just read that as 'mutual parody lines'.

Somewhere, in an alternate dimention, the Master is making a parody sitcom of the Doctor. Maybe that's what we're watching...

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